🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 John Terry

[zolayes 14,489]

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Ferdinand plans new union for black players

I think someone needs to show the attention seeker this.

if anyone wont join will they be called blacklegs....

I suppose since Torres wont strike he must be a blackleg as well :ph34r:

[Liquidator 5,176]

Why would he go to Valencia of all teams as well? They are in a dire financial situation, hence the sales of Mata, Silva and villa in the last few years, they would not be able to afford his wages and they already have good centre backs. Load of tosh if you ask me.

[Superblue 6,372]

Then again I seem to remember Man City making multiple offers and huge wages. It took about a month and a huge wage increase before Terry said he would be with Chelsea for the rest of his career. Pfft.

This has always been something in my mind that has tainted my view of him a bit. I wouldn't be bothered if he openly admitted that he considered at the time or was even tempted by a move to City, even if it was purely money motivated. I'd have no problem with that if he was being open and honest. Lampard openly admits he was tempted to leave us in 2008 to join Inter but in the end decided to stay - I've no problem with that as he's being honest. But the fact that Terry kept quiet until he had negotiated a fat new 5 year contract with a highest earner clause, and then turned around and said he never even contemplated moving...who is he trying to kid?!

[Reddish-Blue 2,503]

I don't get all the fuss about Terry.

I mean, has TERRY actually confronted the media and told them he's planning on leaving Chelsea?

JT is Captain, Leader, Legend. I don't care about the whole Anton Ferdinand thing, both him and Rio just want to destroy Terry's image even further.

This wasn't about racism, it's about how Ferdinand got overlooked for the English national team, even though he said he was fit and he felt he was playing well.

[Kieran. 6,317]

This has always been something in my mind that has tainted my view of him a bit. I wouldn't be bothered if he openly admitted that he considered at the time or was even tempted by a move to City, even if it was purely money motivated. I'd have no problem with that if he was being open and honest. Lampard openly admits he was tempted to leave us in 2008 to join Inter but in the end decided to stay - I've no problem with that as he's being honest. But the fact that Terry kept quiet until he had negotiated a fat new 5 year contract with a highest earner clause, and then turned around and said he never even contemplated moving...who is he trying to kid?!

Yeh, that was shit. This affected my view of him more than anything else.

[Rambo 1,729]

Terry's not going anywhere, he's the only one from the old guard who I can see retiring in Chelsea colours.

[YouNameIt 1,511]

you guys actually think that if terry would ever go to another club he'd go to valencia?

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[CHOULO19 24,332]

That's just wrong!

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Terry to Valencia? That has to be the weirdest rumour I've ever heard.

[Fulham Broadway 17,312]

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Terry to Valencia? That has to be the weirdest rumour I've ever heard.

Weirder than Lamps to manu? We Chelsea fans, more than anybody else, should know that the media will write absolutely anything.

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Weirder than Lamps to manu?

Actually, yeah.

[silviupastean 135]

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/4160/extra-time/2012/10/27/3483056/extra-time-sligo-rovers-player-dons-john-terry-mask-to-celebrate-

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[Chelseapony 76]

You know this has really bothered me (not just because it involves the Chelsea captain) and I've had this thought and I really couldn't find the right words to express it. Then it kinda came to me.

The real issue I see it is not racism or at least it's not the entire picture. It's like saying the United States has a glock 22 problem instead of a gun problem. "Racism" is merely one piece of the problem which is abusive chanting and abusive trash talking in English football.

Why is insults about race especially taboo? Because of the historical baggage of the slave trade, colonialzation, segregation, etc. Take that all way, let's just say we lived in a world where the atlantic slave trade, Nazis or Jim Crow never happened, strip it all away and what is racist abuse? It's merely making fun of someone's physical attributes, also cultural attributes based on what they look like they're from.

So forgetting the historical baggage is calling someone "Hey you black f***!" wrong? Yeah, but so is calling someone a "fat f***" Or for that matter insulting someone's mother etc. Football fans don't make monkey noises because they're "racist" in the extreme sense of the word. It's just another way to get under a person's skin. Like you bring up Wayne Rooney prostitution thing. I'm not saying it's not wrong, but to link that with the real RACIST RACIST stuff that happened in the past is not logical.

The problem is more about inappropriate chanting not just racist chanting. Like I said, racism is merely one weapon, like a glock 22. The real issue is abusive chanting to footballers period and also abusive from one footballer to another. NOT JUST RACIST ONES.

Also I find it kinda laughable how now there is extreme overreaction to "racism". But what I mean is where was this lovely sentiment against racism when it was like ACTUALLY NEEDED. Nobody gave a sh** against racism when England had India as a colony and treated Indians like 2nd class citizens, or when England used African laborers like slaves or when England was bombarding China's coast, addicting them to opium and treating Chinese people like inferior beings.

Oh right everybody was racist back then, now present day we're so vigilant over racism, god forbid some footballer make some racist insult and we've got to stop John Terry before England becomes Nazi Germany/Jim Crow Southern America. Really it's punishing John Terry that's lynchpin to saving the western world from reverting to our racist past.

Really I'm not writing this to defend John Terry, it's the complete disgust at the media and people in general to turn a issue like racism and completley miss the point entirely and turn it into a absolute joke. Cliches and sanctimonious bullsh** rather than a honest look at the issue.

[Manuf 1,448]

You know this has really bothered me (not just because it involves the Chelsea captain) and I've had this thought and I really couldn't find the right words to express it. Then it kinda came to me.

The real issue I see it is not racism or at least it's not the entire picture. It's like saying the United States has a glock 22 problem instead of a gun problem. "Racism" is merely one piece of the problem which is abusive chanting and abusive trash talking in English football.

Why is insults about race especially taboo? Because of the historical baggage of the slave trade, colonialzation, segregation, etc. Take that all way, let's just say we lived in a world where the atlantic slave trade, Nazis or Jim Crow never happened, strip it all away and what is racist abuse? It's merely making fun of someone's physical attributes, also cultural attributes based on what they look like they're from.

So forgetting the historical baggage is calling someone "Hey you black f***!" wrong? Yeah, but so is calling someone a "fat f***" Or for that matter insulting someone's mother etc. Football fans don't make monkey noises because they're "racist" in the extreme sense of the word. It's just another way to get under a person's skin. Like you bring up Wayne Rooney prostitution thing. I'm not saying it's not wrong, but to link that with the real RACIST RACIST stuff that happened in the past is not logical.

The problem is more about inappropriate chanting not just racist chanting. Like I said, racism is merely one weapon, like a glock 22. The real issue is abusive chanting to footballers period and also abusive from one footballer to another. NOT JUST RACIST ONES.

Also I find it kinda laughable how now there is extreme overreaction to "racism". But what I mean is where was this lovely sentiment against racism when it was like ACTUALLY NEEDED. Nobody gave a sh** against racism when England had India as a colony and treated Indians like 2nd class citizens, or when England used African laborers like slaves or when England was bombarding China's coast, addicting them to opium and treating Chinese people like inferior beings.

Oh right everybody was racist back then, now present day we're so vigilant over racism, god forbid some footballer make some racist insult and we've got to stop John Terry before England becomes Nazi Germany/Jim Crow Southern America. Really it's punishing John Terry that's lynchpin to saving the western world from reverting to our racist past.

Really I'm not writing this to defend John Terry, it's the complete disgust at the media and people in general to turn a issue like racism and completley miss the point entirely and turn it into a absolute joke. Cliches and sanctimonious bullshit rather than a honest look at the issue.

great post, but the sad part is that you can't and won't be able to change anything, ever. it's people's nature to attack others and since it's prohibited to punch somebody they will find other weaknesses to exploit. appearance being the easiest one.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

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The thing that is really annoying me is that the word " Racist " is only used for the white people.

For example, A black guy calls me a white cunt. So, I'm going to take him to the court and of course I'll get laughed at !!!

I heard that in Scotland, if u call a person a black cunt, your talking about a jakey, dirty looking person. But in some other countries, if you call a person a black cunt,

everyones acting like it's the end of the fuckin world ! OH MY GOD HE CALLED HIM A BLACK CUNT OH MY GOD OH MY GOD !!!

Isn't anyone there to tell them to shut the fuck up complete morons ?? Football is a game for men . Get on with it or tear back at him or break his leg... End of the

damn story.

[Kieran. 6,317]

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The thing that is really annoying me is that the word " Racist " is only used for the white people.

For example, A black guy calls me a white cunt. So, I'm going to take him to the court and of course I'll get laughed at !!!

I heard that in Scotland, if u call a person a black cunt, your talking about a jakey, dirty looking person. But in some other countries, if you call a person a black cunt,

everyones acting like it's the end of the fuckin world ! OH MY GOD HE CALLED HIM A BLACK CUNT OH MY GOD OH MY GOD !!!

Isn't anyone there to tell them to shut the fuck up complete morons ?? Football is a game for men . Get on with it or tear back at him or break his leg... End of the

damn story.

You sound racist.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

You sound racist.

I'm not racist sir. I'm one of the guys who actually try to stop racism.

I wasn't being mean to any black person. I'm just saying why when a black guy makes fun of a white guy no body cares??

[DYC. 7,542]

Is there still any doubt over him being our best centreback?

[Chelseapony 76]

Michael Jordan, called one of his younger teammates a "faggot" when he was a player with the Wizards.

Was that wrong? Yes. But would it have been neccessary to label Jordan a homophobic and say he's disgraced his legacy and have the police file charges, and have this whole media storm, and raise this whole issue of homophobia in the NBA and professional sports? NO. It was reported, there was some controversy but it faded quickly.

The player he called a "faggot" wasn't actually gay but I'm sure his feelings were hurt (I think it was reported he cried) so that doesn't make it any less heinous than calling Anton Ferdinand (who was saying some nasty things of his own) whatever Terry was accused of.

Also if it sounds like I'm willing to go to extreme lengths to defend John Terry, it's because I am. I don't mind being a shameless apologist for John Terry.

I'm a Portland Trail Blazers fan, I've had to go through a lot more embarassing player incidents than this for a team that's won far far less. I've had my team sign a player that was recently convicted of forcing his nanny to perform oral sex on him, in other words sexual assault. Blazers players insulting the fans and saying they don't matter, drunk driving, smoking marijuana, dog fighting, one player sucker punching another in practice, a (black) player calling his (black) coach a n*****, and one player throwing a towel at a teammate in front of a national tv audience.

So if you'll excuse me if I think Ashley Cole calling the FA twats on his Twitter or the John Terry Anton Ferdinand incident is small potatoes. Maybe I'm just a terrible person, but my tolerance of athletes misbehavior is very high. It'll take a lot more than this for me to turn on John Terry.

John Terry's a disgrace? Please. Maybe it is a god idea for London to have a NFL team, then the english media can see what REAL controversy looks like.