Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 He is still good enough to be one of our centre backs,but it has to be with Alex.......Luiz is a total liability and makes JT look worse than he is...for what it's worth, I don't think Lampard should be in the teamI must say i worry every time Luiz has the ball he seems to try and beat 4 players instead of just making a clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I must say i worry every time Luiz has the ball he seems to try and beat 4 players instead of just making a clearance.Well, yeah, there's that... also look at the number of times he's come out with the ball, almost too far away from where he's meant to be! I'm not berating his efforts going forward, but whenever the other side goes to attack, Luiz is all the way up the pitch and he has no time to run back, and Mikel has to be there to cover for him, which is fine, but by just covering for Luiz, Mikel has left a wide open space in the midfield for the opposition to work around! I tell you one player who never did that... Makelele! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Well, yeah, there's that... also look at the number of times he's come out with the ball, almost too far away from where he's meant to be! I'm not berating his efforts going forward, but whenever the other side goes to attack, Luiz is all the way up the pitch and he has no time to run back, and Mikel has to be there to cover for him, which is fine, but by just covering for Luiz, Mikel has left a wide open space in the midfield for the opposition to work around! I tell you one player who never did that... Makelele!I dont know other people opinions but i think Romeu should be playing ahead of Mikel if not we need to seriously look at a new holding midfielder in Jan Mikel has proved he isn't up to the job,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,534 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 He's lost the pace he used to have but that was always gana happen seeing he's getting older and then the endless back problems he seemed to have.Didnt seem the same since then but sod it still our Captain and still our player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Lesser men would knock on Abramovichs door and say '' I want out '' but hes not a quitterAnd give up the 150k odd he picks up each week? Sure ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 He's lost the pace he used to have but that was always gana happen seeing he's getting older and then the endless back problems he seemed to have.Didnt seem the same since then but sod it still our Captain and still our playerTerry has never really been known for his pace , as someone posted before he had Riccy C to cover him for that. i just don't think his mind is still in the game with the media circus that is around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 he obviously is not doing too badly if he is still England captain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 he obviously is not doing too badly if he is still England captainThis is Capello were talking about , a man notorious of picking his team on stature rather than form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Just have a look at Terry's last 3 years' stats...Games played:2010/11: 462009/10: 512008/09: 51I mean, for a defender like Terry who's always playing at 110% it has been too many games imo... he has played 12 games this season already and if he continous to do so he'll end up having played another 45 games. If we use him in the right matches he can play till he's 35 without losing much of his qualities but he has been overplayed in the last years and if we keep doing that he'll have to give his starter job away in the next 2 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Sad to say but he does look finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 surprisingly he is rated as the third best defender in the league right now!http://www.premierleague.com/page/Top10Defenders/0,,12306,00.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 And give up the 150k odd he picks up each week? Sure ...Cant believe you're saying that about a player who, without a doubt, has shown more commitment to the club than any in its history.If he was solely interested in money he could earn double that in the MLS ala Beckham. So yeah, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igi26 346 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 He is still one of the best DC's in the world. Only thing he needs is a good defensive cover from his other DC. Best partner for that is Ivanovic or Luiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Lesser men would knock on Abramovichs door and say '' I want out '' but hes not a quitterNot if the lesser men were on 150 a week.But I agree. People are fickle fucks out here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 I dont know other people opinions but i think Romeu should be playing ahead of Mikel if not we need to seriously look at a new holding midfielder in Jan Mikel has proved he isn't up to the job,.Very true. Just look at how many touches e takes when he receives te ball. That's a habit he needs to get rid of sharpish. Romeu on the other hand looks sleek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Cant believe you're saying that about a player who, without a doubt, has shown more commitment to the club than any in its history.Wouldn't go that far. What was all the hold up 2 seasons back when Man City were in for him and then he signs a 150k after weeks of silence.Regardig MLS he ain't that old. He is 31 only and still wants to play at the top level while earning shitload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Honestly -what a bunch of fickle fuckers, It was Lampard getting the same last month wasnt it, now every one wants to suck him off...Not that I don't disagree with the sentiment of that post.. But in fairness, Lampard did turn it around for himself. Nothing to suggest John can't. I think rotation's doing well for his fitness though, that's been a very good call by AVB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 The high line doesn't suit JT as he's always lacked pace in his game, he's not past it, he's just not 25 anymore. Resting him the same way Lampard has been rested is the key to keeping him at his best. He's not superman anymore, we used to think nothing would phase him or keep him out of the game too long. But now it's taking it's toll on his body & his mind with the allegations against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Wouldn't go that far. What was all the hold up 2 seasons back when Man City were in for him and then he signs a 150k after weeks of silence.More than likely it would have been an agent angling for the best contract. Seriously, if you ever come to Stamford Bridge to watch a game you'd see the commitment to fans and the club that isnt covered by TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,312 Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Not that I don't disagree with the sentiment of that post.. But in fairness, Lampard did turn it around for himself. Nothing to suggest John can't. I think rotation's doing well for his fitness though, that's been a very good call by AVB True. I am sure he will, its just difficult when the media are acting like a bunch of hyenas.he'll probably score against Wolves -(though he could do with a rest- ) then every one will be spunking ''captain, leader legend'' again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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