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10 hours ago, xPetrCechx said:

The way Terry was said his contract won't be extended. Over the fucking phone to his agent.  :mouthclosed:

Why so eager to criticise without knowledge of the full facts?

How do we know, for example, that the agent didn't phone them and ask to be told? Insisted in fact on being told then and there? He may or may not have done that, we don't know. Maybe I should be more accurate and say, I don't know but you take the point.

In any case, the agent was not told that there would be no offer. He was told no offer yet. He and JT, mainly the agent I'm sure, then cooked up their media offensive to put pressure on the club. That was not necessary in my opinion. The board have worked with JT closely for years and have been very loyal to him. He and his agent should have found a better way. If I were a club official seeing John behave like that would have saddened and disappointed me.

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3 hours ago, kmk108 said:

There's no two teams I hate more than Spurs and Liverpool, but look at them lately. Since Klopp has come to Liverpool, there's a soul back at that club. There's optimism for the future and a buzz around the city that hasn't been felt since the Rafa days. Spurs have put a good manager in place with a view of the future, backed by some great young players.

It was the same for periods under Kenny and Brendan, when things are going remotely good at Liverpool they pipe up, the wankfest starts etc etc.

Klopps done well in Europe, but in the league he and Liverpool have been bang average.

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Not really excited about Conte's appointment, going from being linked with Stones to fucking Bonucci tells it's own story, think he's coming for the sake of making this season look like a 'freak' incident. Which means winning and winning fast, If Chelsea FC go through a truly transitional period after finishing 9th from 1st it hurts the brand, more time spent not winning anything.

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I do not agree Roman needs to go. What Chelsea are today, we owe it to Roman. All the decisions he has taken were with the best interests of the club. He is a quiet man. Barely cracks a whisper in the media. I think he's made one public statement in over ten years here. But I also feel that if you talk to the man, you will get a real sense of how much he loves the club and how much he wants the club to succeed. The passion he shows at some games, I remember the Champions League final especially, standing next to his son. 

But with regards to the direction of the club, I agree to a certain extent that the people who have served the club could be treated better. John Terry's future isn't yet resolved and it's May already. Also, apart from Cech, none of the other legends have been replaced with good players. 

I would wait and watch what Conte does. I have real optimism with Conte. I do not care about a young or old squad but if he can bring together a team that gives its best, with every player sticking to his job and playing to his ability, I would be more than happy. It is not necessarily about the titles. That can happen gradually. But if we get the basics right next season and finish top 4 while making real improvements in our football, I'd consider it a good season. 

The last thing i would want is for the club to turn into a group of superstars who don't perform together. A few English players (not just to fill out the squad like City buy) would be good too. 

 

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a change is needed, probably in the youth and transfer policy. You can't ask instant success of a manager because it does render him unable to integrate the youth and promising players into the team. It has become instant success or doom. Bad for the footballing world.

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Here is my view on us atm.

This season fuck knows what went wrong here. thats all for that lol

 

Going into the future, ill be honest i dont really know much about Conte so cannot really judge him but atm the take it as a positive.

With transfers this summer i really dont know who the hell we are going to sign, lets be honest who is going to want to join a table that just makes it into the top 10 no European football, I fear if we cannot sign 3 top players this summer we are in for another season as the current one. And with that being said it could take while for us to get to the top again 

 

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People who didn't expect or see this season coming have been burying their heads in the sand.

This season has been teased since the days of Scolari. We've had plenty of seasons since then just like this one, only to manage to pull it back someway (qualify for/win the champions league, win the FA Cup, win the Europa League).

It can be reasonably argued that those previous seasons were recovered by big performances from some of the club's legends, and that is a big reason why they are as such.

However, it can be argued just as much that change has been needed for years and the reason why it hasn't ever been followed through is these same players have resisted it. It's pretty common knowledge that the likes of Cech, Ballack and Drogba fell out with Scolari, and Lampard and Ashley Cole likewise with AVB. 

It's partly why I'm not completely against Terry leaving. He will always be a legend here, one of the very best, but no player will last forever and I do get the feeling that the club will never fully embrace change until all of the old guard are gone.

I see lots of clubs now playing with so much intensity, closing down all across the pitch, with pace and a fearless attitude and then I watch us playing at times such a cautious, pedestrian way. It has worked for us over the last decade but football evolves and we must too. 

Until we do this, the board and the club as a whole cannot be truly assessed...

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It's actually quite fitting in a perverse way that Mourinho and Hiddink have between them overseen our worst season for over two decades.

Before Jose's return, every time things were going not great with managers Jose's shadow loomed large, and after Hiddinks first spell their was always the temptation to call for him to save us. They are the only two managers that have ever really given us an aura of inviciblility.

After this season I highly doubt we will be chanting for Jose (beyond sentimental) any time soon and while IMO Hiddink has done an admirable job, he has frustrated heavily with team lineup and tactics and isn't a patch on his 2009 self.

For years I didn't actually want either manager to ever return (changed my mind after the AVB debarcle re Jose), my main worry was actually what has happened, that it won't be as good as the first time and would put dents in the legacy they built, but now it's happened, it could help us move on to the new era. 

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