chelseafan26 293 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 On 24/04/2016 at 6:29 PM, the wes said: All I know his contract near up and there's no talk of him getting a new deal atm I wish its actually the kid who has told the board to shove the contract up their asses. It would be nice to know that their are still talented kids out their who can stand up for themselves, believe in themselves rather than getting sucked up in our useless loan system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 3 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: I wish its actually the kid who has told the board to shove the contract up their asses. It would be nice to know that their are still talented kids out their who can stand up for themselves, believe in themselves rather than getting sucked up in our useless loan system. Like Frank Nouble? He rejected professional deal from Chelsea and signed for West Ham, because there he "would get more chances". Now he's playing in China. Grass is not always greener away from Chelsea. Tomo and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 minute ago, pHaRaOn said: Like Frank Nouble? He rejected professional deal from Chelsea and signed for West Ham, because there he "would get more chances". Now he's playing in China. Grass is not always greener away from Chelsea. Atleast he is settled somewhere. I would take settling in china playing for one team rather than playing merry-go-round with my career in the chelsea loan system. Netherlands one year, Championship the other, Serie A the next etc etc. For every one Frank Nouble, we have a Chalobah, a mceachran, a Kakuta, and literally 100s more of these kids who had so much talent. Sad to see it all go waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, pHaRaOn said: Like Frank Nouble? He rejected professional deal from Chelsea and signed for West Ham, because there he "would get more chances". Now he's playing in China. Grass is not always greener away from Chelsea. Back then it probably wasn't a good thing to do, but now the situation is much more different. So much is invested in academies now that these players are walking cash cows, especially the longer the stay at an academy. Our ex-players are settled at the clubs they've moved on to, but not before they wasted loads of time on meaningless loans in the Netherlands or Championship, etc. chelseafan26 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 23 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: Atleast he is settled somewhere. I would take settling in china playing for one team rather than playing merry-go-round with my career in the chelsea loan system. Netherlands one year, Championship the other, Serie A the next etc etc. For every one Frank Nouble, we have a Chalobah, a mceachran, a Kakuta, and literally 100s more of these kids who had so much talent. Sad to see it all go waste. Those guys failed to make it because they are not good enough. That is the long and the short of it. What's more that was clear from the off. Gael, for example, has wonderful touch and dribbling skills but that, in itself, is not enough. I wrote him off as a Chelsea player less than twenty minutes after kick-off of the first under 18s game I ever saw him play. (Vs Cardiff at Stamford bridge.) When Jose made his ill-advised attempt to bolster Nate's confidence by pretty much promising the lad a place in the squad after one more spell on loan, I predicted that TSO would never be able to make good on that promise. That was because Nate simply is not good enough to earn that place and I knew it because I had seen him play for the 18s & 21s then watched him play for Watford. It's easy for people to get carried away by young players but just hoping they are better than they are is not going to help. Unless the help being sought is a made up excuse to bash Chelsea and Chelsea people. Edit: Correction, it was Scott Sinclair I wrote off after 20 minutes of that Cardiff game. The first game I saw Kakuta in was vs Man City u18s. Same 20 minutes though. Tomo and Peace. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pHaRaOn 2,131 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 1 hour ago, chelseafan26 said: Atleast he is settled somewhere. I would take settling in china playing for one team rather than playing merry-go-round with my career in the chelsea loan system. Well... Each case is individual though. But I can understand players that prefers to stay at Chelsea. At least club cares about them and trying to make best out of them. Not every super-talanted youngster able to make it at top level. If Ola leaves and become a starter at a top-club in a few years - fair play to him. I would be happy for him, as he's clearly talanted lad, but chances that he'll make it at other top-club are not much higher than at Chelsea. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Looks like another on possibly on the way out. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 5 hours ago, chelseafan26 said: I wish its actually the kid who has told the board to shove the contract up their asses. It would be nice to know that their are still talented kids out their who can stand up for themselves, believe in themselves rather than getting sucked up in our useless loan system. We lose Domingos Quina to west ham the other day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, LAM09 said: Looks like another on possibly on the way out. Celtic would be a step down for him the Scottish league is so poor nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Celtic would be a step down for him the Scottish league is so poor nowadays The return of Rangers will add a bit of competition, but I still expect Celtic to be dominant for now. Guaranteed playing time and possible CL footie could be a big enough pull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 5 hours ago, the wes said: We lose Domingos Quina to west ham the other day Another one who is intelligent enough to not waste his talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelseafan26 293 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 6 hours ago, pHaRaOn said: Well... Each case is individual though. But I can understand players that prefers to stay at Chelsea. At least club cares about them and trying to make best out of them. Not every super-talanted youngster able to make it at top level. If Ola leaves and become a starter at a top-club in a few years - fair play to him. I would be happy for him, as he's clearly talanted lad, but chances that he'll make it at other top-club are not much higher than at Chelsea. Fair enough, may be Nouble was not a good example. What about someone like bertrand. Loaned here, loaned there. One season at a club and he got into the PFA team of the year, last year, IIRC. Why is that? Is it because the youngsters need time and confidence? Ofcourse they do. I have to massively disagree with Aina's chances to succeed at chelsea being equal at any other big club. Thats simply wrong. Barcelona gave fair chances to the likes of tello, sandro, haddidi, bojan, affelay. These players did not just get a useless minute when we were leading 5-0 at home to a relegation. They have got proper auditions. Thats why for every tello, their is a thiago, for every affelay their is a rafinha, a sergi roberto. The chance of a "youth player" succeeding at a big club is literally exponential at clubs like Barca, Bayern, ATM, arsenal, spurs, pool, because they actually care about their youth products and give them a chance, For us, the youth system is a useless entity. We cant boast of one single youth product JT. what an absolute shame. Even RM can boast of generating Jese and Morata. Who can we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scargo 75 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Our kids are so greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Spoke to him last night, by the way he was quality last night against Boro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 9 hours ago, the wes said: Celtic would be a step down for him the Scottish league is so poor nowadays doing well at celtic attracts attention though, if they get into the CL, like wanyama, van dijk Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Would someone explain to me the hype around this kid. Never seen anything special from him, except speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I don't get why people say that we waste talents. Di Santo, Sinclair, Sahar, Kakuta, McEachren, Stoch.. No academy player proved that we made a mistake by selling them. I think if they were talented enough they could have shown they quality on loan or at other teams. Lukaku and Christensen could instantly play great in the highest level. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeboii 1,844 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 19 hours ago, the wes said: We lose Domingos Quina to west ham the other day What a shame. We gave him a better life and everything for him to leave us because "he might have a better shot at the first XI" at West Ham.. WHEN HE IS STILL 16!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 19 minutes ago, Yeboii said: What a shame. We gave him a better life and everything for him to leave us because "he might have a better shot at the first XI" at West Ham.. WHEN HE IS STILL 16!!! Footballers nowadays are ungrateful fuckers mccg and Yeboii 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 11 hours ago, scargo said: Our kids are so greedy. Not really. If you're not going to pay, at least got paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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