🇳🇱 Arjen Robben

[Spike 12,049]

He's not a choker, the last thing Robben is, is afraid or nervous, because like I said he's an ego. He's a player who constantly takes shots all game without giving a fuck. Things just haven't worked out for him in the past two finals he has been in, and unfortunately for him those last two finals where the World Cup and the Champions League.

By the way I remember watching that World Cup final, and if I remember correctly wasn't Robben one on one both times? If not I'm sure he got another chance to score or something.

Choker doesn't mean afraid or nervous. It means not being able to perform as expected in high stakes and important moments. You could argue that it's caused by nerves and whatnot but that is just semantics.

[Kojo 4,676]

Choker doesn't mean afraid or nervous. It means not being able to perform as expected in high stakes and important moments. You could argue that it's caused by nerves and whatnot but that is just semantics.

Mario Gomez doesn't do well in big games because he goes out there with a different head and mentallity, and that mentallity he simply can't play with because the expectations are bigger.

Arjen Robben is similar to Balotelli, they are ego maniacs, they will just want to score more and probably go for the glory. Could be a reason why it's never worked for Robben, Balotelli on the other hand seems like a big game player too me.

Of course I could be completely wrong about this, as I don't know the players in person obviously, but that's just what it seems to me.

[Spike 12,049]

Mario Gomez doesn't do well in big games because he goes out there with a different head and mentallity, and that mentallity he simply can't play with because the expectations are bigger.

Arjen Robben is similar to Balotelli, they are ego maniacs, they will just want to score more and probably go for the glory. Could be a reason why it's never worked for Robben, Balotelli on the other hand seems like a big game player too me.

Of course I could be completely wrong about this, as I don't know the players in person obviously, but that's just what it seems to me.

I understand what you are saying and I agree to a degree but his ego shouldn't stop him from converting one-on-ones and penalties like he didn't do in the WC10, CL10, and CL12.

[Kojo 4,676]

I understand what you are saying and I agree to a degree but his ego shouldn't stop him from converting one-on-ones and penalties like he didn't do in the WC10, CL10, and CL12.

I didn't watch CL 10 did he choke in that match too?

I really like Robben, he has so much talent, he's just a technically great player. But it's his mentallty what lets him down, he can make a great first touch take on some players but when it comes down to it he can be frustrating as he's let the team down by not passing and that seems to of effected his last 2 or perhaps 3 moments in the finals.

But maybe if he didn't have that confidence he wouldn't be the player he is in the first place. You know they say a League 2 player can do just about as much in terms of technical abillity as a Premier League player, but it all comes down to mentallity, but of course that's what football is. We can learn how to kick a ball can't we, and once that's out the way we have to think about it next time to improve our game.

#SIDETRACKED sort of, It's an interesting theory though don't you think? At least worth discussing, Robben is a strange one, I mean I believe Robben can do just as much as Ronaldo in terms of abillity, but when it comes down to it Ronaldo does so much more. Maybe it's the mentallity or is Robben actually a long way off Ronaldo?

[Strike 7,490]

I didn't watch CL 10 did he choke in that match too?

I really like Robben, he has so much talent, he's just a technically great player. But it's his mentallty what lets him down, he can make a great first touch take on some players but when it comes down to it he can be frustrating as he's let the team down by not passing and that seems to of effected his last 2 or perhaps 3 moments in the finals.

But maybe if he didn't have that confidence he wouldn't be the player he is in the first place. You know they say a League 2 player can do just about as much in terms of technical abillity as a Premier League player, but it all comes down to mentallity, but of course that's what football is. We can learn how to kick a ball can't we, and once that's out the way we have to think about it next time to improve our game.

#SIDETRACKED sort of, It's an interesting theory though don't you think? At least worth discussing, Robben is a strange one, I mean I believe Robben can do just as much as Ronaldo in terms of abillity, but when it comes down to it Ronaldo does so much more. Maybe it's the mentallity or is Robben actually a long way off Ronaldo?

As you said, he takes a lot of shots and if one of them went in, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. It is a strange one because he seems up for the big games i.e he doesn't go anonymous. He did run clear of the defence for the one-on-one's. It's in the final third where he's had a problem.

Against Inter, Robben had a good game. He was consistently beating Chivu on the rigth wing but he failed to deliver in the final third. He had few chances as well. Not as clear cut as WC final but chances nonetheless and he failed to convert. Against Chelsea, with the defence so deep, it was worth it to take a punt from outside the box if there's no passing option. Robben did that 2-3 times but failed.

i don't think he's a choker in terms of game-performance but he is a choker with his finishing.

[Rmpr 8,977]

i don't think he's a choker in terms of game-performance but he is a choker with his finishing.

Which means his teams don't win the game, which means nobody will remember the first two thirds, which means people will remember him as a choker!

I really wish he wasn't a failure in the big games because I actually really like him, but he is indeed a failure in the biggest 3 games of his career so far (and it isnt a small one, he is already 29). He has had good games, like you said, but hasnt delivered in the end, which is what ultimately matters.

I got impressed with him against Barcelona though, he was immense. If Bayern comes to win UCL with him being a big part of it, then you can say that at least in the club level, he has redeemed himself...

[Ollie 4,400]

I don't think he's a big game player if i'm honest. He bullies the small teams but in big games he get's outdone because he's a bit of a one trick pony. He did play well against Barca though i must admit but since the UCL final and then the Euro's, his self confidence seems to have taken a battering which can be understood of course but those few months certainly took a lot out of him. Hopefully that performance against Barcelona is the catalyst for him to return to top form. An in form Robben with Hazard and Mata behind Falcao = a word bigger than the dictionary has to offer.

Anyway i can't see it.

[Strike 7,490]

Finally he didn't fluff his chance on the big stage.

[Tomo 21,751]

Finally he didn't fluff his chance on the big stage.

The funny thing is he did, he just got lucky this time, guess he deserves it tho.

[Azpinator 2,325]

No doubt that he deserves winning the CL, I mean players like Bosingwa have won it so it would be unfair for the likes of Arjen not to join the "CL winners club" or whatever you wanna call it. You could tell how bad he really wanted it, reminded me of Drogba. Really Happy for him, his Blue memories remain precious.

[Kieran. 6,317]

So happy for Arjen! Imagine the nightmares he's had after all of his big game flops. Finally came through.

[Leif 6,006]

Sorry but i find it absolutely depressing and a travesty that he has a CL winners medal but Ballack does not.

[Madmax 9,219]

^ neither does Ronaldo

[Amblève. 4,995]

Well, he was the only Bayern player that knew how to celebrate... for what it's worth...

[Strike 7,490]

The funny thing is he did, he just got lucky this time, guess he deserves it tho.

ha! yeah. missed quite a few chances but was very calm when the ball deflected to him in the 89th

[Weckerz 3,781]

Never liked Robben tbh. Selfish one trick pony.

[bishan 0]

Agreed on Ballack, the whole team was in their prime in 2008.I just cant forget that Teryy miss at Moscow. . They deserved that UCL trophy that year.

[haranr 485]

Arjen Robben back to Chelsea with the returning of Mourinho? For me it sounds like a likely thing to happen. We all know that Pep Guardiola wants to sell Robben or at least bench him. I have heard Robben talking about Mourinho's return and he didn't stop complementing Chelsea and Mourinho.

I think that one of our goals in this summer transfer windows is to buy a real right winger and by real I mean a left footed winger. (Hazard and Moses prefer the left side).

Once again, this idea isn't rumored but I have got a feeling that Robben will be heading to Chelsea this summer IF Pep Guardiola really dislikes Robben.

[mediator 2,026]

We need a solution for our right wing, so why not

[BOSS 372]

He is the best RW in the world atm. So i would welcome him back to Chelsea.