The Mourinho Thread

[11Drogba 2,000]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

Man United set for record revenues despite Champions League exit

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/2805008/manchester-united-set-for-record-revenues-despite-ucl-exit

 

This is why I still say that Pep did not choose the easier job. The easier job by far would have been United as they got more money to spend. Giving that City also have to spend to build a squad giving that they have older players and their defensive players are not that good.

United by far the easiest job because of the money they have.

Working with Begiristain makes City job easier for Guardiola. He would have to deal with Woodward at United.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

2 hours ago, Fernando said:

Man United set for record revenues despite Champions League exit

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-united/story/2805008/manchester-united-set-for-record-revenues-despite-ucl-exit

 

This is why I still say that Pep did not choose the easier job. The easier job by far would have been United as they got more money to spend. Giving that City also have to spend to build a squad giving that they have older players and their defensive players are not that good.

United by far the easiest job because of the money they have.

But then compare approaches of both clubs.

Man United owners want to make money from this club.

Man City owners want to bring money to the club and they're not interested to make money from this.

Very different.

[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Working with Begiristain makes City job easier for Guardiola. He would have to deal with Woodward at United.

How do you know Woodward is hard to work with. You worked with the guy?

So far he has giving every player Van Gaal has wanted. Other players they wanted to buy but they didn't want to come.

2 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

But then compare approaches of both clubs.

Man United owners want to make money from this club.

Man City owners want to bring money to the club and they're not interested to make money from this.

Very different.

Yeah but United still has the money coming in and they have shown the past few transfers window by spending big. They have no problem with spending now.

[Styles 9,790]

20 hours ago, Fernando said:

This is funny:

 

Will Ferrell admits Jose Mourinho sacking at Chelsea was his fault

http://www.espnfc.us/blog/the-toe-poke/65/post/2804388/will-ferrell-admits-jose-mourinho-sacking-chelsea-his-fault

Thank you, Will Ferrell. 

[11Drogba 2,000]

43 minutes ago, Fernando said:

 

So far he has giving every player Van Gaal has wanted.

 

You attend to their meetings?

Guardiola knows Begristain for 30 years and they were very successful together at Barca. It is hard to have that synergy with someone else.

[Fernando 6,585]

15 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

You attend to their meetings?

Guardiola knows Begristain for 30 years and they were very successful together at Barca. It is hard to have that synergy with someone else.

And they had a lot of problems with the players they bought. Chigrinsky anyone?

He didn't cut at Barcelona for a reason.

[Spike 12,049]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And they had a lot of problems with the players they bought. Chigrinsky anyone?

He didn't cut at Barcelona for a reason.

One transfer isn't 'a lot'. Ibrahimovic conversely was very good player for them, he and the manager simply were at odds.

[11Drogba 2,000]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

 

He didn't cut at Barcelona for a reason.

He was the technical director between 2003-2010 at Barca.

[Fernando 6,585]

12 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

He was the technical director between 2003-2010 at Barca.

Yeah but they let him go because of all those buys they was making. Wasn't as good. The best players was coming for La Masia and they bought a lot of duds.

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

He didn't cut at Barcelona

Yeah but they let him go

After winning everything in seven years he resigned when Laporta stepped down. They won four trophies in his last season.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

11 hours ago, Blue Colored Sky said:

Mourinho achieved 5 straight Champions League semifinals between 2010-14 with 3 diffrent clubs (when his era has passed).

He might have reached 5 consecutive Champions League semi finals but he failed to reach the final on each occasion.

If you compare the number of trophies he's won post-2010 with 'between 2004 and 2010', you will find that the numbers have dropped. Between 2004 and 2010, he won 11 trophies (excluding Community Shield, Italian Super Cup, Spanish Super Cup). Since then, he's won only 4.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

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[robsblubot 3,595]

Look at the player faces and remember what they looked like in the beginning of the season...

club wont release the info but they look visibly thinner and fitter now. It's quite obvious with ivanovic in particular.

was it Jose letting them lose after the title win, or club poor preseason planning? Both? Whoever becomes the manager needs to do better.

[Henrique 9,133]

On 2/11/2016 at 9:28 AM, Blue Colored Sky said:

Man, it's too early. WAYYY TOO EARLY. Why jump on the conclusion at this point ?

Mourinho achieved 5 straight Champions League semifinals between 2010-14 with 3 diffrent clubs (when his era has passed).

Guardiola never even got knocked out before semifinal. 6 semifinals out of 6.

 

Mourinho never reached UCL final with Chelsea, despite facing Liverpool in 2 occasions, a team that in both occasions was a waker side. Mourinho was fired, Chelsea achieved a UCL final, beating the same Liverpool. I don't understand how people only think about the positive aspects of Mourinho's conservative tactics, or how some people act like its only a matter of taste. Sometimes you get the feeling that Mourinho is more afraid of losing than anything else. Bigger the occasion, more conservative his tactics get. I mean, back in 2005, Chelsea was waaay stronger than Liverpool, but somehow Jose came up with ultra conservative tactics, and could not even score a goal in 180 minutes. The gap was not that huge in 2007, but Chelsea was still some steps above Liverpool. In my opinion the rivalry between him and Rafa affected the outcome of those games, it seems he was so obsessed with not losing, that he made it pretty difficult to actually win.

Think about 2008 semi-final. The first 15 minutes of extra-time was one of the most intense football I've ever seen from Chelsea. The team scored a goal that was off-side, then actually scored 2-1, then still pursued a 3rd goal. 3-1. Only in the last 15 minutes the team parked the bus, but I'm sure if Mourinho was in charge, probably the match would have been decided on penalties. 

Mourinho reached semi-finals 2 times with Real. He was fired, then Real actually won it.

Problem with Mourinho tactics is he is ultra conservative even when its not really necessary, thats one of the reasons he is a UCL Semifinal specialist. 

[nono 791]

We were all waiting for Mourinho to change. With regards to his tactics, with regards to his dealing with others. He never did. United fans are in for a very rude awakening. Most of them are delusional and believe being their manager will make Mourinho change.