MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He's a starter for Spain but he's only good enough for Sevilla? Overall Willian isn't better in any aspect.Hell even Willian's specialty (worktate) Pedro is better at it.Yeah because Spain is not that good anymore now, I mean they got destroyed by the Netherlands who is really not that good themselves as seen by their form under Hiddink recently. I mean from the days of David Villa to now Morata leading the line lol. So you are saying Pedro is faster, have better defensive work rate, better stamina than Willian?That must be hard to judge considering he hardly plays for Barca and in the games that they ACTUALLY need to try to defend like against Real, Bayern he is nowhere near the team. Its ok though 15 goals every season with most coming from the 4/5/6-1 wins which Messi already got a brace by the end of half time means he is better than one of the starting winger for Brazil and Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Willian has to be the most overrated player in Chelsea history. Even Malouda who had 3 better seasons than Willian will ever have wasn't anywhere near this appreciated.Is he a great dribbler? NoIs he particularly creative? NoDoes he score goals? NoIs he a big game player? NoYet people claim he's "much better" than a player that was a starter for the most dominant club & NT sides this decade up until last season. A player that's just 2 goals shy of scoring 100 goals for Barcelona. I mean, his isn't some loveable academy prospect or something he's a £30m signing that is currently in the prime of his career. Astonishing just how low the bar is set for him. I just don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 how do u agree with a person who does not understand the difference between having turan/vidal and pedro as a replacement to MSN compared to sandro and haddidi. Well honestly I dont really care that u guys disagree, just the way you do it.It's not only about the two of you, there are other members around here and all this negativity is not very fun to read. Also, if you would argue in a calm, serious way then other members will surely enter the discussion aswell !Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarlow 458 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 you do realise if Messi, Neymar or Suarez got injured before or after January Barca would be in trouble regardless, Turan and Vidal are certainlly not going to make up for the goals that Barca would lose if one of them got injured.very true, if any of MSN got a bad injury even if its after January Barca are screwed either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Willian has to be the most overrated player in Chelsea history. Even Malouda who had 3 better seasons than Willian will ever have wasn't anywhere near this appreciated.Is he a great dribbler? NoIs he particularly creative? NoDoes he score goals? NoIs he a big game player? NoYet people claim he's "much better" than a player that was a starter for the most dominant club & NT sides this decade up until last season. A player that's just 2 goals shy of scoring 100 goals for Barcelona. I mean, his isn't some loveable academy prospect or something he's a £30m signing that is currently in the prime of his career. Astonishing just how low the bar is set for him. I just don't get it.If you are judging by goals then Negredo/Higuain/Cavani is top 5 strikers in the world yet we all know the truth is none of them are even close. Also scoring for Barca isn't that difficult especially when you have some of their best supporting team mates in football history(Suarez,Messi,Rakitic,Iniesta...etc) who are always there to provide you for tap ins in the usual 4/5/6-1 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Thread updated every minute. Very excited at first, and then after I open it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Yeah because Spain is not that good anymore now, I mean they got destroyed by the Netherlands who is really not that good themselves as seen by their form under Hiddink recently. I mean from the days of David Villa to now Morata leading the line lol. So you are saying Pedro is faster, have better defensive work rate, better stamina than Willian?That must be hard to judge considering he hardly plays for Barca and in the games that they ACTUALLY need to try to defend like against Real, Bayern he is nowhere near the team. Its ok though 15 goals every season with most coming from the 4/5/6-1 wins which Messi already got a brace by the end of half time means he is better than one of the starting winger for Brazil and ChelseaMorata is good. KO'ed Real in the CL and scored against the best team in the world in a CL final. But yea, Spain isn't very good anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaKstone 307 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Thread updated every minute. Very excited at first, and then after I open it... Everything in a sunny Sunday day with no work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 very true, if any of MSN got a bad injury even if its after January Barca are screwed either wayif hazard gets injured any time, we are screwed too. but their is a difference in replacing hazard with a youth player like brown (haddidi for barca), or a decent replacement like pedro/remy (turan/vidal for barca) and thats what we are saying here. if it is about replacing any of those MSN as per each of their talents, there simply aint players available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 A no brainer for the rumoured amount. Not only that I want him here, but I think he is first eleven material as well. Cuadrado is rubbish and Willian is not a winger. Just like Thomas Muller, Pedro is not the most exciting player to watch, but he is damn good at what he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Morata is good. KO'ed Real in the CL and scored against the best team in the world in a CL final. But yea, Spain isn't very good anymore.I know he is good but not Villa level good, he is atm more similar to the Higuain type to me and just being a great poacher, but that is about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I know he is good but not Villa level good, he is atm more similar to the Higuain type to me and just being a great poacher, but that is about it.He's a little more than a poacher. But I agree, Villa was a top 5 striker in the world at his peak, Morata i doubt will ever be quite that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Some members here need to go and wank it out on Reus and then return here and post. Obviously we are not interested in Reus and it's nothing we can do about it. I never said he is a bad player, but he has been playing as a LW for some time and that's his position for me now. If he played RW before cool, but I still feel he's better on the left. Who else is there besides Reus for our right wing ? Trust me guys, I'd like us to sign Reus too but we're not even interested Or you would rather we've signed Sterling for 50mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I think he'll be a great addition to our team.He has great movement, great touch on the ball, is experienced and doesn't cost a shit load of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Some members here need to go and wank it out on Reus and then return here and post.Obviously we are not interested in Reus and it's nothing we can do about it. I never said he is a bad player, but he has been playing as a LW for some time and that's his position for me now. If he played RW before cool, but I still feel he's better on the left.Who else is there besides Reus for our right wing ?Trust me guys, I'd like us to sign Reus too but we're not even interested Or you would rather we've signed Sterling for 50mil?Quickly becoming one of my favourite posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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