🇪🇸 Pedro Rodríguez

[CHOULO19 24,332]

@didierforever,@Pacquiao, drop it?

You two are getting very boring and annoying. You're single-handedly destroying threads you 'debate' in and its starting to genuinely harm the forum. If you can't stand each other make use of the forum's ignore option.

You two are on VERY thin ice, here.

[didierforever 7,349]

you do realise if Messi, Neymar or Suarez got injured before or after January Barca would be in trouble regardless, Turan and Vidal are certainlly not going to make up for the goals that Barca would lose if one of them got injured.

so you mean to say that turan/vidal/pedro as a replacement for MSN is on the same level as haddidi or sandro?

we are talking about replacements here, not every player will be of the quality of those 3, but the backups atleast need to have a positive impact.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

lol this is embarassing, yet again for you.

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-8-oscar/?p=1115323

"in all the debate today, where once have i said that pre-season would not matter"

and just to make sure that i dint edit it, lets take the statement you quoted,

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-8-oscar/?p=1115329

hmmm.. embarassing indeed.

oh, so a guy who was bothered to point out every thing, quote, re-qoute me and others for 20 different times was not bothered to point that part out... hahahahahha... this is embarassing indeed.

also, do you start using your selfie as a sign when you are getting embarassed just to cover it up?

your still trying to wriggle your way out of it! just take it on the chin.

and no i couldnt be bothered at the time, i had better things to do.

[didierforever 7,349]

your still trying to wriggle your way out of it! just take it on the chin.

and no i couldnt be bothered at the time, i had better things to do.

yes, i can see the better things that you had to do with the 20 other posts in the same thread that you had made.

wriggle out of what. do you have a problem to read? again with the selfie?

also since you seem to have such a problem reading, i ll try to divert and bring to your attention what choulo has said above.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

yes, i can see the better things that you had to do with the 20 other posts in the same thread that you had made.

wriggle out of what. do you have a problem to read? again with the selfie?

also since you seem to have such a problem reading, i ll try to divert and bring to your attention what choulo has said above.

yet you are the one still quoting me???

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Ultimately, whilst I DO think that there are other players out there who may be capable of allowing the team to improve massively (Reus, Bale, maybe Isco etc), these players appear to be unavailable to us at this time, and so it seems that we shall either have to go for players like Pedro, or otherwise simply purchase no further attacking players at all.

Until people come to accept this fact that Bale, reus, Griezmann, Isco and Sterling are all not available then they'll realize the only realistic right winger that is an upgrade on willian is pedro. I mean even bayern bought Douglas Costa and Barcelona bought Arda Turan....

Pedro is technically gifted, a good short passer, a decent (but not brilliant) dribbler, and a fairly reliable goal-scorer with intelligent off-the-ball movement. Add to that the fact that he's a pretty fast player who is capable of using his speed effectively, and I think he could serve us (very) well as the 'goal-scoring AM/RM' that we've been hoping for. Schurrle and Cuadrado haven't worked out for us due to their relatively average levels of technique and passing ability, whilst Willian possesses the technique required but fails to be a consistent attacking threat for us on the right; Pedro could potentially offer us a blend of their various qualities/abilities when playing on the right, and so provide us with genuine balance across the AM positions.

He also has strength on the ball not to fall and is completely two footed like Carzola. He has the workrate Mourinho craves too.

I would love griezmann, but I'm not willing to take another Schurrle/Mata/KdB gamble of a player who plays very well behind the striker only to turn to shit on the right.

[yuvala 2,167]

Haha u guys are unbelieveable !
Is there anything you two agree about ?

[Gilvorak 3,734]

End product yh maybe but overall Willian is a much better player.

Pedro of 10-11 was one of the best winger in the world, nowadays he is probably just a winger that is good enough for Sevilla aka Jesus Navas like and anyone can see these type of players are not good enough to be starting for us and improve our 11

He's a starter for Spain but he's only good enough for Sevilla? Overall Willian isn't better in any aspect.

Hell even Willian's specialty (worktate) Pedro is better at it.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

@didierforever,@Pacquiao, drop it?

You two are very boring and annoying. You're single-handedly destroying threads you 'debate' in and its starting to genuinely harm the forum. If you can't stand each other make use of the forum's ignore option.

You two are on VERY thin ice, here.

slight edit

[didierforever 7,349]

Haha u guys are unbelieveable !

Is there anything you two agree about ?

how do u agree with a person who does not understand the difference between having turan/vidal and pedro as a replacement to MSN compared to sandro and haddidi.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Ban(s) incoming

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

He's a starter for Spain but he's only good enough for Sevilla? Overall Willian isn't better in any aspect.

Hell even Willian's specialty (worktate) Pedro is better at it.

Yeah because Spain is not that good anymore now, I mean they got destroyed by the Netherlands who is really not that good themselves as seen by their form under Hiddink recently. I mean from the days of David Villa to now Morata leading the line lol. So you are saying Pedro is faster, have better defensive work rate, better stamina than Willian?

That must be hard to judge considering he hardly plays for Barca and in the games that they ACTUALLY need to try to defend like against Real, Bayern he is nowhere near the team. Its ok though 15 goals every season with most coming from the 4/5/6-1 wins which Messi already got a brace by the end of half time means he is better than one of the starting winger for Brazil and Chelsea

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Willian has to be the most overrated player in Chelsea history. Even Malouda who had 3 better seasons than Willian will ever have wasn't anywhere near this appreciated.

Is he a great dribbler? No

Is he particularly creative? No

Does he score goals? No

Is he a big game player? No

Yet people claim he's "much better" than a player that was a starter for the most dominant club & NT sides this decade up until last season. A player that's just 2 goals shy of scoring 100 goals for Barcelona. I mean, his isn't some loveable academy prospect or something he's a £30m signing that is currently in the prime of his career. Astonishing just how low the bar is set for him. I just don't get it.

[yuvala 2,167]

how do u agree with a person who does not understand the difference between having turan/vidal and pedro as a replacement to MSN compared to sandro and haddidi.

Well honestly I dont really care that u guys disagree, just the way you do it.

It's not only about the two of you, there are other members around here and all this negativity is not very fun to read.

Also, if you would argue in a calm, serious way then other members will surely enter the discussion aswell !

Just a thought

[jmarlow 458]

you do realise if Messi, Neymar or Suarez got injured before or after January Barca would be in trouble regardless, Turan and Vidal are certainlly not going to make up for the goals that Barca would lose if one of them got injured.

very true, if any of MSN got a bad injury even if its after January Barca are screwed either way

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Willian has to be the most overrated player in Chelsea history. Even Malouda who had 3 better seasons than Willian will ever have wasn't anywhere near this appreciated.

Is he a great dribbler? No

Is he particularly creative? No

Does he score goals? No

Is he a big game player? No

Yet people claim he's "much better" than a player that was a starter for the most dominant club & NT sides this decade up until last season. A player that's just 2 goals shy of scoring 100 goals for Barcelona. I mean, his isn't some loveable academy prospect or something he's a £30m signing that is currently in the prime of his career. Astonishing just how low the bar is set for him. I just don't get it.

If you are judging by goals then Negredo/Higuain/Cavani is top 5 strikers in the world yet we all know the truth is none of them are even close. Also scoring for Barca isn't that difficult especially when you have some of their best supporting team mates in football history(Suarez,Messi,Rakitic,Iniesta...etc) who are always there to provide you for tap ins in the usual 4/5/6-1 wins.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Thread updated every minute. Very excited at first, and then after I open it...

[iseah100 5,612]

Yeah because Spain is not that good anymore now, I mean they got destroyed by the Netherlands who is really not that good themselves as seen by their form under Hiddink recently. I mean from the days of David Villa to now Morata leading the line lol. So you are saying Pedro is faster, have better defensive work rate, better stamina than Willian?

That must be hard to judge considering he hardly plays for Barca and in the games that they ACTUALLY need to try to defend like against Real, Bayern he is nowhere near the team. Its ok though 15 goals every season with most coming from the 4/5/6-1 wins which Messi already got a brace by the end of half time means he is better than one of the starting winger for Brazil and Chelsea

Morata is good. KO'ed Real in the CL and scored against the best team in the world in a CL final. But yea, Spain isn't very good anymore.

[JaKstone 307]

Thread updated every minute. Very excited at first, and then after I open it...

Everything in a sunny Sunday day with no work

[didierforever 7,349]

very true, if any of MSN got a bad injury even if its after January Barca are screwed either way

if hazard gets injured any time, we are screwed too. but their is a difference in replacing hazard with a youth player like brown (haddidi for barca), or a decent replacement like pedro/remy (turan/vidal for barca) and thats what we are saying here. if it is about replacing any of those MSN as per each of their talents, there simply aint players available.