Radamel Falcao

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I'll take a walk one day to the local park and when I return I'll see Falcao holding up a blue shirt and Torres holding a red and white shirt. And I'll be conflicted, upset with Falcao, happy with Torres.

[The only place to be 11,313]

The only way i can see anybody refusing to have Falcao join Chelsea is because of the price tag.

Footballing wise... the guy is a BEAST. You dont score 5 goals in one game but luck. You dont compete with Messi and Ronaldo in the race for the Pichichi by luck. Yes he is falling behind now but keep in mind that he was injured for 3 weeks and he plays for a lesser side.

Falcao is as prolific as it gets when it comes to strikers... 21 goals in the league from only 88 shots. Compared to Ronaldo who has 27 goals from a staggering 194 shots (yes Ronaldo takes free kicks) but that is still a massive contrast ! So far this season in all competitions this season he's scored 29 goals in 32 games.

You cant take nothing away from this lads ability as a striker.

Yet he's completely unproven in the Premier League.

I can't remember a time when we've been in for a player who looks so good on paper (and in person) yet the support has been so apathetic about the prospect of his arrival - and that encourages me to be honest. It says to me that we want to build something properly rather than buying expensive parts. It says to me that we actually want to reward young guys who do everything asked of them with loyalty and fairness. It says to me that the fans are actually starting to look longer-term than simply who models the new kit in July or who they get to play with in FIFA 14.

Unless we get a deal that involves Torres going the other way and a reduced price, then I can see this deal being a watershed moment. If we deal Courtois then we're morons. If we overspend when we have greater needs in other areas then we're morons and quite frankly the board would deserve the punishment that comes with idiotic decisions.

[bushman 2,043]

...the board would deserve the punishment that comes with idiotic decisions, I read.

Funny but have we not seen many idiotic decisions so far ?

Just take a look at Chelsea´s loans. There is your answer.

[The only place to be 11,313]

...the board would deserve the punishment that comes with idiotic decisions, I read.

Funny but have we not seen many idiotic decisions so far ?

Just take a look at Chelsea´s loans. There is your answer.

Let's not go through this again. Of the 24 loans we have in place, I'd argue at least 20 make perfect sense. You don't want to go into specifics so why bother to bring it up?

[bushman 2,043]

Let's not go through this again. Of the 24 loans we have in place, I'd argue at least 20 make perfect sense. You don't want to go into specifics so why bother to bring it up?

Whatever, you feel that´s your prerogative. I do have several doubts on it.

Chatting about it, it´s my decision & not yours.

[Ollie 4,400]

I watched Atletico against Sociedad the other week and they were so poor. I think with the variety of players we have behind the striker, Falcao would be unbelievably good for us, you can tell just by seeing the assists Hazard and Mata have already this season and that's not counting the chances our idiot striker has missed. Falcao is beastly in the air, from the spot, he even takes a mean FK on occasion and scores many types of goal. If Torres does go in part exchange, i will literally Jizz. He's not old either, if you think 27, coming up to 28 is old, you need desperate help. He'll have 4 or possibly even 5 years, that's pretty much the norm for most players anyway. Then we simply replace him. Ba, Lukaku, Falcao. We'll never be short again and for all the games we play, 60 odd sometimes, we need it.

[Mustafa 885]

Or develop a 2 up top system that works... Falcao and Lukaku, would be something pretty special.

Thats what Diego Simeone has done this season .. he's dropped Adrian and plays Diego Costa who has similar traits to Lukaku and they work well together

[LondonPride1905 236]

The only way i can see anybody refusing to have Falcao join Chelsea is because of the price tag.

Footballing wise... the guy is a BEAST. You dont score 5 goals in one game but luck. You dont compete with Messi and Ronaldo in the race for the Pichichi by luck. Yes he is falling behind now but keep in mind that he was injured for 3 weeks and he plays for a lesser side.

Falcao is as prolific as it gets when it comes to strikers... 21 goals in the league from only 88 shots. Compared to Ronaldo who has 27 goals from a staggering 194 shots (yes Ronaldo takes free kicks) but that is still a massive contrast ! So far this season in all competitions this season he's scored 29 goals in 32 games.

You cant take nothing away from this lads ability as a striker.

The guy is immense, the problem is there is another word to these words: for now. Everything can happen in England , and seeing the profilic hype that he would most probably receive at The Bridge, and the hate from the media, it will all come down to how fast he can put it in the net. The problem here is, that we have always played less with the striker. We look to him, only to put the ball in the net, and that is unsuccesful 90 % ot the time. Drogba, got back, defended , took the ball away, gave it to the flank, dribbled past 1 - 2 players and that is why he was succesful. Same goes for Hasselbank. Torres and Sheva, were not like that. Neither was Kezman for instance. THAT IS MY OPINION. Just to point it out, I don't want us to look for the new Drogba, not at all. There are a lot of players, who are worth taking a look for a lot less money. Yes, okay, it's not my money. Yes, neither would Abramovic listen to me. But one Lewandowski or Jovetic would work wonders for a little less money. What do they have , that Falcao doesn't have though? Lewy has everything. He is scoring goals here and there with ease. I can remember all of his goals against Bayern for the last years, and the staggering combination with Reus , for the goal against Real. He is also a deadly striker. Not Falcao, but he is a deadly striker. The same doesn't go for Jovetic, but he is 22, he easily has the time for that. Problem with our club is, that we always look to buy what is the most expensive, because people are talking about it frequently. Ex: Torres, Falcao, Shevchenko etc. Problem is that I am not saying anything new here, so yeah, "Thanks Captain Obvious".

So for my conclusion, I would like to say: "Yes, I Would love Falcao here. He is a complete beast, and has THAT eye for the goal that few people have. But it is not like he is THE ONE. I can point out a few players, that could easily replace Torres, with just a little less than Falcao's boots, and a lot more than his price tag."

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The guy is immense, the problem is there is another word to these words: for now. Everything can happen in England , and seeing the profilic hype that he would most probably receive at The Bridge, and the hate from the media, it will all come down to how fast he can put it in the net. The problem here is, that we have always played less with the striker. We look to him, only to put the ball in the net, and that is unsuccesful 90 % ot the time. Drogba, got back, defended , took the ball away, gave it to the flank, dribbled past 1 - 2 players and that is why he was succesful. Same goes for Hasselbank. Torres and Sheva, were not like that. Neither was Kezman for instance. THAT IS MY OPINION. Just to point it out, I don't want us to look for the new Drogba, not at all. There are a lot of players, who are worth taking a look for a lot less money. Yes, okay, it's not my money. Yes, neither would Abramovic listen to me. But one Lewandowski or Jovetic would work wonders for a little less money. What do they have , that Falcao doesn't have though? Lewy has everything. He is scoring goals here and there with ease. I can remember all of his goals against Bayern for the last years, and the staggering combination with Reus , for the goal against Real. He is also a deadly striker. Not Falcao, but he is a deadly striker. The same doesn't go for Jovetic, but he is 22, he easily has the time for that. Problem with our club is, that we always look to buy what is the most expensive, because people are talking about it frequently. Ex: Torres, Falcao, Shevchenko etc. Problem is that I am not saying anything new here, so yeah, "Thanks Captain Obvious".

So for my conclusion, I would like to say: "Yes, I Would love Falcao here. He is a complete beast, and has THAT eye for the goal that few people have. But it is not like he is THE ONE. I can point out a few players, that could easily replace Torres, with just a little less than Falcao's boots, and a lot more than his price tag."

Yes, but that was before. WE played counter football where strikers had to be fast and strong, taller to get the ball in air etc.

Shewa and Torres never worked because they joined in decline of their careers. When sheva retrn to milan, club he scored all those goals (and was best player in the world at some point), he was just shadow. So it wasnt just Chelsea that was bad for him. Same goes to Torres. He is not the player once was. I bet with his form from 2007-2009, he would be destroying opponents even at Chelsea. But this Torres is shit. As for Ba goes, he is tall and strong and somehow very Drogba/Hasselbaink look alike; but he isnt that good obviously in football skills.

So...we have changed our play. We want to keep the ball. Not just pull back and do things on fast counters. We have brilliant creators. With top striker, we would score 2 more goals per game. Defensively, Falcao is no worse than Torres. Imagine that killer Falcao in penalty area, given support from Mazacar...

But sure there are few problems. Despite Falcao always played in counter attacking team, he is deadly around goal. It doesnt matter how much space he has. He has great dribbling (effective), he has superb shot and excelent in air. What worries me about Falcao is not his addaptation, but his age. He is 27 and I think last season he was better than this one. Not in terms of goals, but in play. He destroyed us and Atletic alone. He scored several superb goals. Better than this season. He had more fight in him and more to prove like he wants to go in better club. At age 27 he could do a Di Natale and play till 34+. Or his pace and explosivness goes down and we will have another Torres. Falcao goals are based on fast game. We have fast game. If Falcao loses his killer instinct and speed, he wont score more than 10 goals. He isnt Rvp, Aguero to create chances. He scores from everywhere. He is also 'star'. If there will be half chance he will shoot. Even if Mata or Hazard will be in much better chance.

But unlike Torres he is a fighter. And as they say, luck is on the side of brave so...

He isnt worth 50mio. Not at this age. If he was 25, he would have 4 years guaranteed to be on best form. After 29, you never know. And now he is 27, soon to be 28 and that is close to 29. Sure Rvp is 29, Suarez will soon be 27, Villa is 31 etc. But they are more than poachers. If we have chance to get Falcao for 25-30mio plus Torres, then I would buy him in a sec. But anything over that he just isnt worth anymore. Sure if we can get same Falcao who scored 3 goals cs us, we would win PL next year for sure.

But with the striker situation at Chelsea, EVERYONE will have to handle huge pressure. Falcao for 50 or Bony for 10. If the striker will come as first choice he will have huge pressure on him, no matter the price tag.

Mou, Falcao (30mio) and Modric/Strotman/Gundogan/Moutinho (20-30mio) and we are set! In 2014 we just buy a CB and LB and there is team for next 8 years

[LondonPride1905 236]

Yes, but that was before. WE played counter football where strikers had to be fast and strong, taller to get the ball in air etc.

Shewa and Torres never worked because they joined in decline of their careers. When sheva retrn to milan, club he scored all those goals (and was best player in the world at some point), he was just shadow. So it wasnt just Chelsea that was bad for him. Same goes to Torres. He is not the player once was. I bet with his form from 2007-2009, he would be destroying opponents even at Chelsea. But this Torres is shit. As for Ba goes, he is tall and strong and somehow very Drogba/Hasselbaink look alike; but he isnt that good obviously in football skills.

So...we have changed our play. We want to keep the ball. Not just pull back and do things on fast counters. We have brilliant creators. With top striker, we would score 2 more goals per game. Defensively, Falcao is no worse than Torres. Imagine that killer Falcao in penalty area, given support from Mazacar...

But sure there are few problems. Despite Falcao always played in counter attacking team, he is deadly around goal. It doesnt matter how much space he has. He has great dribbling (effective), he has superb shot and excelent in air. What worries me about Falcao is not his addaptation, but his age. He is 27 and I think last season he was better than this one. Not in terms of goals, but in play. He destroyed us and Atletic alone. He scored several superb goals. Better than this season. He had more fight in him and more to prove like he wants to go in better club. At age 27 he could do a Di Natale and play till 34+. Or his pace and explosivness goes down and we will have another Torres. Falcao goals are based on fast game. We have fast game. If Falcao loses his killer instinct and speed, he wont score more than 10 goals. He isnt Rvp, Aguero to create chances. He scores from everywhere. He is also 'star'. If there will be half chance he will shoot. Even if Mata or Hazard will be in much better chance.

But unlike Torres he is a fighter. And as they say, luck is on the side of brave so...

He isnt worth 50mio. Not at this age. If he was 25, he would have 4 years guaranteed to be on best form. After 29, you never know. And now he is 27, soon to be 28 and that is close to 29. Sure Rvp is 29, Suarez will soon be 27, Villa is 31 etc. But they are more than poachers. If we have chance to get Falcao for 25-30mio plus Torres, then I would buy him in a sec. But anything over that he just isnt worth anymore. Sure if we can get same Falcao who scored 3 goals cs us, we would win PL next year for sure.

But with the striker situation at Chelsea, EVERYONE will have to handle huge pressure. Falcao for 50 or Bony for 10. If the striker will come as first choice he will have huge pressure on him, no matter the price tag.

Mou, Falcao (30mio) and Modric/Strotman/Gundogan/Moutinho (20-30mio) and we are set! In 2014 we just buy a CB and LB and there is team for next 8 years

Yes. What excludes Falcao from Torres is the psychic part of him. He is a natural born fighter, it's in him. And I do agree on your opinion about the deal with the 30 mil. + Torres. But that is how I see things, and It will come down to that eventually. Atleast, I think it will.

[robsblubot 3,539]

Yes, but that was before. WE played counter football where strikers had to be fast and strong, taller to get the ball in air etc.

Shewa and Torres never worked because they joined in decline of their careers. When sheva retrn to milan, club he scored all those goals (and was best player in the world at some point), he was just shadow. So it wasnt just Chelsea that was bad for him. Same goes to Torres. He is not the player once was. I bet with his form from 2007-2009, he would be destroying opponents even at Chelsea. But this Torres is shit. As for Ba goes, he is tall and strong and somehow very Drogba/Hasselbaink look alike; but he isnt that good obviously in football skills.

So...we have changed our play. We want to keep the ball. Not just pull back and do things on fast counters. We have brilliant creators. With top striker, we would score 2 more goals per game. Defensively, Falcao is no worse than Torres. Imagine that killer Falcao in penalty area, given support from Mazacar...

But sure there are few problems. Despite Falcao always played in counter attacking team, he is deadly around goal. It doesnt matter how much space he has. He has great dribbling (effective), he has superb shot and excelent in air. What worries me about Falcao is not his addaptation, but his age. He is 27 and I think last season he was better than this one. Not in terms of goals, but in play. He destroyed us and Atletic alone. He scored several superb goals. Better than this season. He had more fight in him and more to prove like he wants to go in better club. At age 27 he could do a Di Natale and play till 34+. Or his pace and explosivness goes down and we will have another Torres. Falcao goals are based on fast game. We have fast game. If Falcao loses his killer instinct and speed, he wont score more than 10 goals. He isnt Rvp, Aguero to create chances. He scores from everywhere. He is also 'star'. If there will be half chance he will shoot. Even if Mata or Hazard will be in much better chance.

But unlike Torres he is a fighter. And as they say, luck is on the side of brave so...

He isnt worth 50mio. Not at this age. If he was 25, he would have 4 years guaranteed to be on best form. After 29, you never know. And now he is 27, soon to be 28 and that is close to 29. Sure Rvp is 29, Suarez will soon be 27, Villa is 31 etc. But they are more than poachers. If we have chance to get Falcao for 25-30mio plus Torres, then I would buy him in a sec. But anything over that he just isnt worth anymore. Sure if we can get same Falcao who scored 3 goals cs us, we would win PL next year for sure.

But with the striker situation at Chelsea, EVERYONE will have to handle huge pressure. Falcao for 50 or Bony for 10. If the striker will come as first choice he will have huge pressure on him, no matter the price tag.

Mou, Falcao (30mio) and Modric/Strotman/Gundogan/Moutinho (20-30mio) and we are set! In 2014 we just buy a CB and LB and there is team for next 8 years

Great post, but it'd still be an expensive gamble. It's 25M minus Torres; I mean, because from a Chelsea's standpoint it would be not having to pay % of Torres wages. Realistically, Chelsea will be paying part of his wages until his contract runs out. Torres was never a very aggressive player, but he had a lot of pace before.

Just think 25-30M is just way too much money for only a good player. Perhaps it's time to bet on younger/cheaper players? For ex, with that amount of money you could get 2 22-23 yo highly-rated players. If we are going to go for a 30M player, that's Cavani, not Falcao.

[Ainsley Harriott 2,732]

To me this is the guy we should get:

[LondonPride1905 236]

That man is dead ang gone...

[bushman 2,043]

To me Falcao is an immense footballer. One of the deadliest strikers in Europe.

According to the latest Falcao, is expected to be worth in the region of € 50m although Chelsea could pay much less up front.

Well, if that´s the case, I´d say get this guy over asap.

My question:

Can Falcao transform Chelsea into a title contender of PL, CL ?

I sincerely hope so, if signed.

[Blue Gino 377]

To me Falcao is an immense footballer. One of the deadliest strikers in Europe.

According to the latest Falcao, is expected to be worth in the region of € 50m although Chelsea could pay much less up front.

Well, if that´s the case, I´d say get this guy over asap.

My question:

Can Falcao transform Chelsea into a title contender of PL, CL ?

I sincerely hope so, if signed.

I doubt Chelsea ever made a second approach and it's been all speculation. 50 million for someone getting close to 30 yrs of age is ridiculous. Someone who's just going to be isolated up top waiting for the service that won't always be there because Chelsea have attacking midfielders with a selfishness about them looking to score which is fine with me but not ideal for Falcao who needs plenty of service having that monumental price tag over his head. You run the risk of him losing confidence and repeating Torres and Sheva all over again. When KDB gets in the mix there's going to be a lot of crosses and long balls by him that someone like Lukaku can benefit from.

[bushman 2,043]

I doubt Chelsea ever made a second approach and it's been all speculation. 50 million for someone getting close to 30 yrs of age is ridiculous. Someone who's just going to be isolated up top waiting for the service that won't always be there because Chelsea have attacking midfielders with a selfishness about them looking to score which is fine with me but not ideal for Falcao who needs plenty of service having that monumental price tag over his head. You run the risk of him losing confidence and repeating Torres and Sheva all over again. When KDB gets in the mix there's going to be a lot of crosses and long balls by him that someone like Lukaku can benefit from.

I too have doubts about it. Having said this, Falcao is at the peak of his career, I feel.

Then one may ask, what else is new at Chelsea ? Chelsea´s management is totally clueless, as we can see it, these days.

Plenty of young, talented players are out on loans. Personally, I have been following Chelsea closely since late 2001 but I am getting fed up with it now. Constant changes of managers, gifted players are playing for other clubs, just one fucking chaos at the Bridge, I feel.

[lucio 5,418]

I too have doubts about it. Having said this, Falcao is at the peak of his career, I feel.

Then one may ask, what else is new at Chelsea ? Chelsea´s management is totally clueless, as we can see it, these days.

Plenty of young, talented players are out on loans. Personally, I have been following Chelsea closely since late 2001 but I am getting fed up with it now. Constant changes of managers, gifted players are playing for other clubs, just one fucking chaos at the Bridge, I feel.

i very much agree with you. personally i really want falcao or cavani. but i feel the midfield is more important

[bushman 2,043]

i very much agree with you. personally i really want falcao or cavani. but i feel the midfield is more important

Since the fans have no say in this matter but despite of it, many of us may voice our disapproval of the way Chelsea is run.

I am not saying I could do better. Of course none or most of us are not qualified to do so. It just pains me to see the same mistakes over & over. So much money spent by Roman over the years, certainly great achievements were made but this club should be fighting for CL, PL titles yearly, I feel.