Radamel Falcao

[Rmpr 8,977]

That's the only thing you're able to answer?

We dont need to pretend we are Gods of Tatics.

We see him not doing the right stuff and conclude he is shit and not worth 50mi anymore.

There is nothing else that needs to be answered, there is no need for guessing/assuming his movement intentions with pretty pictures.

Falcao is light years ahed of him and so is Dzeko.

Falcao > Dzeko > Torres

[TrippingStep 336]

Torres gave 13 key passes this season, only Mata 17 and Hazard 18 have more. But he can't fucking stay on his feet on the ball, not even speaking about link up the play

Torres has 4 goals out of 7 shots on target and 17 shots. But he still can't fucking shoot or score.

Look at that:

Is Torres seriously expecting to get the ball from Ramires with that sort of movement ? Considering Gallas' position, arguably not. But just look at the space it frees behind Caulker (#33). Who gets Ramires' service? Mata who shots twice at goal (and maybe should have scored).

Do you expect that sort of false call from a natural goalscorer? Of course not, if Agüero or Dzeko makes that sort of run and doesn't get the ball they simply get mental to their team mate.

Look at Mata's goal: that's a counter attack and the balls comes to Ivanovic who crosses the ball onto the penalty spot.

Hazard runs at full speed in the penalty box whereas Torres stays backwards after a jogging run, not because he's afraid of coming into the box but to be at the right place on a 2nd ball. That's very hard for a center back who would prefer to know that the striker is bombing in their back, and then, adapt their defending to it.

Here, they don't know what Torres is doing, Gallas even checks behind before getting into the penalty spot. Mata has also stayed behind for a similar reason to Torres', to get into the box or be separated with a late run.

That's what makes Gallas' clearance that weird because he sees that Torres stayed exactly where he didn't want to. We often say to youngsters (and even after) to send back the ball from where it came. Because there it would precisely make Gallas giving the ball to Torres (couldn't clear far away from his body position), he's forced to change his mind at the last second and clears the ball elsewhere (who proves to be even worse).

Usually that's the defensive midfield's role to cover the axis and be aware of the 2nd balls cleared by the defense. Here, there's nobody in between the CBs, nobody tracked back Mata, Gallas couldn't clear the ball from where it came...

That's two schoolcases of Torres' contribution, very basic but crucial. What a natural goalscorer isn't eager to do. Just look at how Agüero plays and moves to understand how a goalscorer wants his team to play as he wants to.

You're right on the first picture.

But on the second one It was not a straight run from Hazard if I remember. He was coming more from the right drifting towards the penalty box and pulling Gallas to the left with him.

[Las7 951]

Torres gave 13 key passes this season, only Mata 17 and Hazard 18 have more. But he can't fucking stay on his feet on the ball, not even speaking about link up the play

Torres has 4 goals out of 7 shots on target and 17 shots. But he still can't fucking shoot or score.

Torres also gave away the ball the most this season his pass accuracy is 71%(lowest out of all strikers I have statistics about), he passes to an opposition player 2.8 times a match a stat which is higher than Falcao(1.8); RvP(1.4); Dzeko(0.9); Defoe(1.4); only striker I have statistics about who gives away possesion through bad passing more often in Ba(2.9) but his passing accuracy is 79%.

At the same time Torres gets dispossessed 3.1 times per match compared to Falcao(1.2); Ba(2.3); RvP(2); Dzeko(0.7); Defoe(1.4);

So even holding up the ball and linking up play is a major problem for Torres. I'd honestly take any of the above mentioned players ahead of him except Defoe - who I just don't rate that highly(personal preference) apart from current finishing ability.

Lets not even mention the amount of times he is unable to shoot due to bad first touch; running into opposition defenders; or simply hesitating for far too much. He takes 2.1 shots per match and has the chance to be shooting far more often - but seems afraid to do so.

[Las7 951]

It's not a new concern for Torres it's a new concern for us fans.

The Real Fernando Torres is not good enough for a starter at this club and it's not only because of his goal scoring form I've underlined the fact that with the attacking players we have - we can't afford a forward who cheaply gives the opposition possession.

I was simply talking about your passing; key passing statistics and saying that he might provide key passes but he also wastes possession which leads to opportunities for opponents to counter attack.

[Kojo 4,676]

At one moment in time there was a sensible debate living, thriving here but sadly as the nature of the universe dictates: time destoys all things ("le temps détruit tout" - an often controversial and always disturing Argentine). What was once a thing of beauty and enlightenment has fallen into the realm of "pissing contests", each man (or woman!) attempting to one up the other in a show of power and superiority.

Alright shakespeare shut it.

[Spike 12,049]

Alright shakespeare shut it.

You are a belligerent one, aren't you?

[Kojo 4,676]

You are a belligerent one, aren't you?

I'll have you know i work hard to earn my controversial status, i worked damn hard to be the new Henrique, show me some respect, you worthless dog.

[Spike 12,049]

I'll have you know i work hard to earn my controversial status, i worked damn hard to be the new Henrique, show me some respect, you worthless dog.

It's very hard to take you seriously. You are treading into the realm of self-parody.

[Kojo 4,676]

It's very hard to take you seriously. You are treading into the realm of self-parody.

I have to admire my skills.

[RamiCFC9 258]

Why don't you just stop telling us with 3163187 manipulated statistics and ridiculously wrong "facts" why Falcao won't make it here and don't just advertise your product better aka Dzeko, Villa, Remy (roll on the floor laughing) and some other shit second rate strikers.

[Kinol 337]

Stop with all these stupid facts about Torres. The only thing you need to see how rubish Torres is, is 2 (maybe even 1) eyes and a subsciption to whatever channel that shows Chelsea games,

[Mufassir08 2,400]

We need falcao ASAP!!!!

[Kinol 337]

Scored again...

[Pacquiao 1,834]

He scores goals for fun at Atletico with pretty average service, i can only imagine what kind of damage he would do up front for us playing in front of Mata, Hazard and Oscar!

[couris 232]

Falcao needs to stop scoring. His price is already insane.

[Cripen 110]

I really want him here. We need him. With Hazard, Oscar and Mata we can only imagine what he could do here...

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I really want him here. We need him. With Hazard, Oscar and Mata we can only imagine what he could do here...

You cant compare that. Spanish league is completely different than English. There is much value on speed and dribbling, while in england is much more physical, strenght, fitness and stamina. Teams play more defensive and tough.

Also dont forget we lost high against this 'average' Atletico by four goals.

I can imagine Falcao to be another flop if the league wont suit him, despite his fantastic form. Or he could be even better with Harzard, Mata,...a big risk.

I guess its him or Cavani in January/summer.

[Beepu 1,714]

Could we have 2 50m strikers???