kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 As much as Falcao is a goal machine or whatever you want to call it, I would rather see us bring in someone less expensive personally. There are other good options around and after all the nightmares we have had with buying an expensive strikers in recent years, we could do with someone without a heavy price tag on him.As much as I always prefered cavani for his height and hold up play, falcao had a bad game like the one vanpersie had against norwich. Vanpersie missed 3 chances there too.The positive is they constantly get goal scoring positions because of GOOD movement.It is very vital, and falcao is one of the best BIG GAME PLAYERS second to drogba. Scoring in consecutive europa league finals is proof. Big game players like messi, ronaldo, drogba, rvp have proven that they can bail the team in the big games.Don't u miss that drogba factor in chelsea?So I don't think the big money will make him flop like torres because his move from porto to athletico was also for big money(more than their former best striker aguero). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamiCFC9 258 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Benzema and Van Persie are the same type of striker. The difference between him and Van Persie is Van Persie knows how to perfectly balance his role as a goal-scorer and his involvement in build-up play. Benzema is still a work in progress in that aspect. Sometimes great, sometimes pretty anonymous. But he's got everything you want in a striker. He's a great finisher, the man can score the most amazing goals. Just look at the goal he scored against Bilbao, that's typical Benzema. But he's inconsistent, he'll have games where he can't seem to finish. It's incredibly weird.Benzema has always underperformed for France and he's not the first to do so for his country. Not all his fault though. France have some great names but they're disjointed and they've been like that for years.The problem with poachers is when you don't play well and have a hard time creating chances, you're basically playing with 10 men. Falcao is currently thriving in a counter-attacking team. That's their game. They don't like to have possession, they want to hit you on the break, that's when they get space. That's what they did against us so well in the Super Cup. But we usually have games where we enjoy most of possession and the opposition will sit back, denying us space. And in such a set-up, you need all you're attacking players to contribute well in the build-up/creation of chances. You can't have 3 players doing everything against 8/9 players.I'm not saying Falcao will fail here but as long as we aim to play possession football, a Van Persie/Benzema type is ideal.Falcao has proved himself in a possession football aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Falcao having a bad november!Looks like the chelsea november curse has affected him as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Almost 80% sure will just turn out to be another flop , he has been hugely successful in teams that were built to get the best out of their strikers , but here the set-up is to get the best out of the midfield , that means the striker will have to be a hardworking player , has at least decent link-up play , willing to move his ass around sometimes only to open up spaces for others.That's why as i have said before Lewandowski should be the man for the task. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Almost 80% sure will just turn out to be another flop , he has been hugely successful in teams that were built to get the best out of their strikers , but here the set-up is to get the best out of the midfield , that means the striker will have to be a hardworking player , has at least decent link-up play , willing to move his ass around sometimes only to open up spaces for others.That's why as i have said before Lewandowski should be the man for the task.Yes Lewan is one I really want to see here. Holds up the ball so successfully, brings his teammates into play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Almost 80% sure will just turn out to be another flop , he has been hugely successful in teams that were built to get the best out of their strikers , but here the set-up is to get the best out of the midfield , that means the striker will have to be a hardworking player , has at least decent link-up play , willing to move his ass around sometimes only to open up spaces for others.That's why as i have said before Lewandowski should be the man for the task.Well Lewandowski wouldn't be available before the end of the season, so I guess we could bring in someone like Bony in January. He'd add a bit of strength, aerial presence, fresh energy up front and he'd be available for a reasonably cheap price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm sure he'd suceed here. He can score in so many ways. I doubt he'd flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Yes Lewan is one I really want to see here. Holds up the ball so successfully, brings his teammates into play.We need someone to play off and around. Falcao is a great player but Lewan is younger, cheaper and can play with his back to goal much better I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I'm certain falcao is what we need. We've got different options in torres, sturridge and later lukaku but no pure finisher. Cavani will be good too but I wuld want him not for any other quality but for his finishing the only thing is falcao has proved himself on the biggest stage as a leader upfront in domestic league and in europe . sturridge is as good a player outside the box if not better than both but for his selfishness, may be sturridge could also learn how to finish from falcao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 HAHA. Sometimes it's both funny and sad reading some comments here. The guy has a bad game and all of the sudden he is shit and u dont want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 HAHA. Sometimes it's both funny and sad reading some comments here. The guy has a bad game and all of the sudden he is shit and u dont want him.No he has had 4 straight bad games. And it's not that we don't want him, some people are just worried with the way he's playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 No he has had 4 straight bad games. And it's not that we don't want him, some people are just worried with the way he's playing.People have been worried many times how Drogba played throughout his time in Chelsea. And Cole. And Terry. etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmercury 20 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Falcao is in the peak of his form the only place for him to go from here is down. We should have bought him from porto now i don't see any point.i'm sure his remarkable goal scoring record will normalise by the end of season( if he stays with atletico), by which time we'll be looking at some other in form striker.I hope some rational person in the board will reject this move . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Falcao is in the peak of his form the only place for him to go from here is down.We should have bought him from porto now i don't see any point.i'm sure his remarkable goal scoring record will normalise by the end of season( if he stays with atletico), by which time we'll be looking at some other in form striker.I hope some rational person in the board will reject this move .And how the hell would you know this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmercury 20 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 And how the hell would you know this?The same way you know that he will be a big hit at chelsea.And going by our past striker signings I have more chance of being right.But going by Falcao's record conventional wisdom would say he will score bucket full of goals.But the fact remains he is at the peak of his powers, he will slow down and hit a rough patch like torres(although the extent and duration is anyone's guess) and I dont want it to be in chelsea.(will be more than happy to be proven wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 The same way you know that he will be a big hit at chelsea.And going by our past striker signings I have more chance of being right.But going by Falcao's record conventional wisdom would say he will score bucket full of goals.But the fact remains he is at the peak of his powers, he will slow down and hit a rough patch like torres(although the extent and duration is anyone's guess) and I dont want it to be in chelsea.(will be more than happy to be proven wrong)Again you come with a fact, that really is your guess. There's nothing that indicates that Falcao will now slow down and hit a rough patch. Theres nothing really that indicates that he is at the peak of his powers. And even if he would be, that doesnt mean that he will become worse, or anything like Torres.It doesnt sound very likely. And what you say could be said about anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I have that shit feeling that if Falcao comes to us, it will be bad but if he joins our rivals, he will be hit.I think we should learn from our past with big money strikers. Maybe we should just go after someone who is about 25-30mio. That is not too much, but the striker that is worth that money, must be good too. No one is good to be worth 50mio. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo, but no one else realy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 I have that shit feeling that if Falcao comes to us, it will be bad but if he joins our rivals, he will be hit.I think we should learn from our past with big money strikers. Maybe we should just go after someone who is about 25-30mio. That is not too much, but the striker that is worth that money, must be good too. No one is good to be worth 50mio. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo, but no one else realy.No one is good to be paid the insane ammounts of money football players are paid. NO ONE. But that is the way it is.And its not just about the fact that we should learn about our past with big money transfers. Its about signing the RIGHT player.In 2004 Drogba was signed for what, 24m? That, to many, seemed like absolute madness. Look at how that turned out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmercury 20 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Again you come with a fact, that really is your guess. There's nothing that indicates that Falcao will now slow down and hit a rough patch. Theres nothing really that indicates that he is at the peak of his powers. And even if he would be, that doesnt mean that he will become worse, or anything like Torres.It doesnt sound very likely. And what you say could be said about anyone. fair enough yes I'm speculating to an extent but you must also add the fact we are going to spend 40 odd million on a 26 year old with negligible resale value compared to the investment. At the end of the day our miserable signings of shevchenko, torres in jan is a fact no one can deny, and I dont want falcao being added to the list for both his and our sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouNameIt 1,511 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 fair enough yes I'm speculating to an extent but you must also add the fact we are going to spend 40 odd million on a 26 year old with negligible resale value compared to the investment.At the end of the day our miserable signings of shevchenko, torres in jan is a fact no one can deny, and I dont want falcao being added to the list for both his and our sake.I highly doubt big clubs like Chelsea consider resale value when buying established players.For instance, what Drogba did for us in the CL is worth more than 100m, but his worth isnt near 100m. You know what I mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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