Chelsea 2004-05 vs Chelsea 2014-15

[The Chels 2,502]

I don't think it's fair to suggest that the 14/15 side is better just because it suffered fewer defeats overall.

We lost fewer domestic games in 04/05, and whilst that side did lose more European games (4 compared to 0), 2 of those defeats came after the round of 16. This year we didn't even progress beyond that stage but if we had then we would almost certainly have ended up losing at least one game in the CL, and progressing further in the competition may also have led to more defeats in the PL.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Think the premier league was easier back then......but at the end of the day, how many and which players would get into the 2004 side from this lot.

[DYC. 7,542]

I don't think it's fair to suggest that the 14/15 side is better just because it suffered fewer defeats overall.

We lost fewer domestic games in 04/05, and whilst that side did suffer more European defeats (4 compared to 0), 2 of those defeats came after the round of 16. This year we didn't even progress beyond that stage but if we had then we would almost certainly have ended up losing at least one game in the CL, and progressing further in the competition may also have led to more defeats in the PL.

If you're talking about me, I never suggested that. That kind of reasoning is far too simple.

The two sides can not be compared imo. Different times. Chelsea ranked higher back then, the differences in terms of quality were slimmer back then, and there were no superclubs in Bayern, Real, and Barca back then. European champions Milan struggled to get past PSV. They had a good side but they were nothing special (referring to PSV). Porto and Monaco in the final a year before. Football has changed a lot in just 10 years.

[The Chels 2,502]

If you're talking about me, I never suggested that. That kind of reasoning is far too simple.

The two sides can not be compared imo. Different times. Chelsea ranked higher back then, but the differences in terms of quality were slimmer back then, and there were no superclubs in Bayern, Real, and Barca back then. European champions Milan struggled to get past PSV. They had a good side but they were nothing special (referring to PSV). Porto and Monaco in the final a year before. Football has changed a lot in just 10 years.

Wasn't referencing anyone in particular. I just saw that stat mentioned a few times on this page and thought I'd point out how it could potentially be misleading.

The lack of any European super clubs back then only makes the fact we didn't win the CL in Jose's first spell all the more regrettable. I do think the 04/05 side was stronger mentally and defensively, although this side is (or at least was in the first half of the season!) better on-the-eye and in terms of individual talent there isn't too much difference. How the two sides would fare together in the same era though is anyone's guess.

[didierforever 7,349]

Think the premier league was easier back then......but at the end of the day, how many and which players would get into the 2004 side from this lot.

not many. infact to be honest, iva, cesc and hazard are the only one who would make it.

[Rom2013 446]

2004 in every possible aspect.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

not many. infact to be honest, iva, cesc and hazard are the only one who would make it.

dont think Drogba would in a joint team...he was pretty poor in the first 2 seasons we bought him and wasnt exactly a fans favourite. Costa would walk into that side over him,

[Badboy 1,526]

Think you will find they lost 5 or 6 games compared to 3 with this team

No I was talking only about the premierLeague that side only lost to Man city that season. That team also only conceded 12 premier league goals and I think they achieved the highest points total.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

dont think Drogba would in a joint team...he was pretty poor in the first 2 seasons we bought him and wasnt exactly a fans favourite. Costa would walk into that side over him,

Drogba was poor in his first season West Brom at home he was terrible he scored a scruffy goal but missed a hatful i really thought he was going to be a flop. His turning point in his second season was the game at Anfield when we beat Liverpool 4-1 and he destroyed Hypia.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Drogba was poor in his first season West Brom at home he was terrible he scored a scruffy goal but missed a hatful i really thought he was going to be a flop. His turning point in his second season was the game at Anfield when we beat Liverpool 4-1 and he destroyed Hypia.

also, when other players asked hime to stop his play acting that the fans were getting on his back for

[iseah100 5,612]

04-05 vs 14-15 would be an amazing game. Think it would finish 1-1, this team may win via some Hazard brilliance. But the 04-05 team was better cause they proved themselves.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

And people want to add Iscos and Reuses and more Cescs into this side.

Ya all know Mou is manager, you watch his football for ages, yet you think we will suddenly change and go more offensive etc.

What we need are not flashy players but players who can do dirty work and know how to score goal.

2004-07 would overrun this Chelsea. Only player that would get into that team is Hazard. Cesc couldnt do shit against 2004 Chelsea.

But back then we had purpose. Mourinho knew tactics and bought players that suited his tactics. This time he plays Oscar, Cesc, who are only good in small games. Tries to play the hard way, but you cant do that with no steel in midfield and no efficiency in attack.