Juan Cuadrado

[Dahnald 256]

36 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

I think Conte woulda worked well with him just has hes done with Moses. That goal he scored against Inter was a canon shot and will have boosted his confidence no end.

I think we have let go of some players far too easy instead of working out the way to get the best out of them we find the easiest way to  get shot of them.

But thats down to the managers and their man management skills.

Hopefully we got one now thats got that quality in his bag of tricks.

I believe Cuadrado was the one who forced his move to Juventus. José never wanted him thus letting him leave on loan in the 15/16 season, but now Conte wanted him (he said this in pre-season) but Cuadrado was like "NOPE. Too late now Chelsea." and returned to Juventus.

And I give him every reason to turn his back on the club. 

 

The 3 year loan deal is something popular in Italy. Inter have an Atalanta player on loan (forgot his name) for multiple years with the option to buy. It's something Italian clubs do a lot. Chelsea will make good money for JC in the end.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Dahnald said:

I believe Cuadrado was the one who forced his move to Juventus. José never wanted him thus letting him leave on loan in the 15/16 season, but now Conte wanted him (he said this in pre-season) but Cuadrado was like "NOPE. Too late now Chelsea." and returned to Juventus.

And I give him every reason to turn his back on the club. 

I'd do the same thing if the club turned their back on me too.

We know Mou and his lack of either ability or patience to work with a player (no matter how good they are) to get that player working at their best FOR US. And instead would just wipe his hands off them. Theres a good list.

I dont think he was 'let' leave. We shipped him out as not wanted. And Juve took the time to work with him. He earned their trust and the fans loved him so his confidence rose. We gets him back pre season and he wasn't hetting playing time so he thought fuck this, not again. All he wanted was to play.

Thats the problem we will find when we want to bring back players off loan who have played regularly.

Ake,Christensen,Tammy,Brown etc. will all want to play but are they at the level we need players to be to win us the CL again?

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54 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

I'd do the same thing if the club turned their back on me too.

We know Mou and his lack of either ability or patience to work with a player (no matter how good they are) to get that player working at their best FOR US. And instead would just wipe his hands off them. Theres a good list.

I dont think he was 'let' leave. We shipped him out as not wanted. And Juve took the time to work with him. He earned their trust and the fans loved him so his confidence rose. We gets him back pre season and he wasn't hetting playing time so he thought fuck this, not again. All he wanted was to play.

Thats the problem we will find when we want to bring back players off loan who have played regularly.

Ake,Christensen,Tammy,Brown etc. will all want to play but are they at the level we need players to be to win us the CL again?

Aké not. I would feel lied to if I were him. Conte calls him when he's on holiday from the Cherries saying he is pleased with his development and all that shit, brings him back from a proper team like Bournemouth where he PLAYS, and then continues to not even select him in the squad on PL match days.
Tammy also not. Doing well at Bristol but we won't play him next season I reckon you this. We are not a club with the DNA to play own-youth. We buy players. We are a buying-club. 
Izzy Brown, as Lewis Baker, not good enough. Will never succeed at Chelsea just like Van Ginkel, Todd Kane, Traoré, Pasalic.

Only Christensen has great potential. 

All those players on loan is shambolic and embarrassing and shows yet again the club has lost it's touch and is nothing more than a football trading house filled with mercenary players. 

Mercenary players as I doubt any of those lads dreamed of playing for "Chelsea FC" back when they were still kiddo's. 

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1 hour ago, Dahnald said:

Aké not. I would feel lied to if I were him. Conte calls him when he's on holiday from the Cherries saying he is pleased with his development and all that shit, brings him back from a proper team like Bournemouth where he PLAYS, and then continues to not even select him in the squad on PL match days.
Tammy also not. Doing well at Bristol but we won't play him next season I reckon you this. We are not a club with the DNA to play own-youth. We buy players. We are a buying-club. 
Izzy Brown, as Lewis Baker, not good enough. Will never succeed at Chelsea just like Van Ginkel, Todd Kane, Traoré, Pasalic.

Only Christensen has great potential. 

All those players on loan is shambolic and embarrassing and shows yet again the club has lost it's touch and is nothing more than a football trading house filled with mercenary players. 

Mercenary players as I doubt any of those lads dreamed of playing for "Chelsea FC" back when they were still kiddo's. 

Sorry but in GENERAL I would much rather pay for a complete fully skilled, trained in one position, top of his profession player over an academy lad or one who just might make it TO FIT STRAIGHT into the 1st team.

Fair enough if hes good then use him on the bench as another option. OR If hes that outstanding then try him out with the 1st 11.

But if you want to make an impression in Europe then we need the good and the right players to fit in the squad.

Yes in a perfect world we use the academy to stock up but in their history how many have conquered teams in Europe? IF they were that good and we didn't use them then they would be outstanding in a lesser league in Europe somewhere. But sadly they havent yet. And our academy is prob the best in England. We have a couple in the 1st 11 now we dont use. Chalobah I think just might be great working alongside N'Golo. Ake just back will get SOME time till Conte finds right position for him, Aina not sure. Not sure even if Solanke is still here. But we fucked things up with RLC. Hyping him  up so much and paying him too much. He shoulda been on the loanagoround. Now we see all our lads expecting the same when called up.

Thats why if and when an exceptional young player pops his head up somewhere you get bidding wars for him.

 

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Loan Watch

Juventus want to make Cuadrado’s loan move permanent

lol all i can say really 

[the wes 7,212]

CUADRADO is reportedly close to securing a permanent move away from Chelsea.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/789971/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Juventus-Close-21m-Juan-Cuadrado-Clause-Agree-Gossip-News

£21m I would snap it off Juventus 

[Unionjack 7,531]

On 10/04/2017 at 10:36 PM, the wes said:

CUADRADO is reportedly close to securing a permanent move away from Chelsea.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/789971/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Juventus-Close-21m-Juan-Cuadrado-Clause-Agree-Gossip-News

£21m I would snap it off Juventus 

I liked Square. Him and Felipe would have fitted us well IMHO. Howzabout a straight swap for Dybala??

How his price breaks down somewhat. A bit confusing.

 

How Chelsea’s summer transfer plans could be changed by Barcelona thrashing

http://www.chelsea-news.co/2017/04/chelseas-summer-transfer-plans-changed-barcelona-thrashing/

[The Skipper 20,593]

Even Juve fans have come around to how average the guy is...

[LAM09 6,744]

Even Juve fans have come around to how average the guy is...

Alves is twice the player he is even in his 30's.

[simonez 69]

On 7/5/2017 at 9:20 AM, The Skipper said:

Even Juve fans have come around to how average the guy is...

 

Not at all. With all the due respect, here in Italy we don't even know who this girl is.

You can probably find mean tweets from Chelsea fans on Costa, a player who has scored 20 goals and earn more points than any other striker in the league, or even on Hazard.

Cuadrado has been one of Juve's most influential players since Allegri switched to a 4-2-3-1 formation in the new year and the whole fan base hope he will sign a permanent deal by the end of the season. And they consider it a good piece of business, while to me Chelsea did magic to recoup the money spent on him.

 

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13 minutes ago, simonez said:

 

Not at all. With all the due respect, here in Italy we don't even know who this girl is.

You can probably find mean tweets from Chelsea fans on Costa, a player who has scored 20 goals and earn more points than any other striker in the league, or even on Hazard.

Cuadrado has been one of Juve's most influential players since Allegri switched to a 4-2-3-1 formation in the new year and the whole fan base hope he will sign a permanent deal by the end of the season. And they consider it a good piece of business, while to me Chelsea did magic to recoup the money spent on him.

 

You would want an upgrade on Cuadrado no? Or are you happy for him to be a starter?

[the wes 7,212]

Chelsea set to cash £3.4m from Juan Cuadrado's loan success at Juventus

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4493694/Chelsea-set-cash-Cuadrado-s-Juventus-loan-success.html

[Dahnald 256]

Funny how Chelsea also don't post anything on social media about Cuadrado reaching the UCL final with Juve.

Wouldn't be worth to do as I think many Chelsea fans don't even know who he is anymore. 

 

To me he's bit of a coward who didn't give Conte a chance. 

[Special Juan 27,425]

Juve announced they have signed him from us.

More coppers to add to the Oscar pot...We need to make sure we spend big but right.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

+17.3 MIL

[LAM09 6,744]

Got some money back, but still a loss.

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[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

19 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Got some money back, but still a loss.

Break even basically. Remember that Juve paid for each of his last 2 years on loan plus that 20m€ fee paid in 3 instalments. It's around 30m€ which is what Chelsea paid for him.

Chelsea need to cash in on those players and those numbers will add up to nice sum. Ideally, we should sell most of Kalas, Omeruo, Pasalic, Van Ginkel, Remy, Hector, Atsu. Then there's Kenedy, Baba, Traore, even Zouma, Ake, Batschuayi. If they don't have future here why keep them ? Cash cow galore.