Closed Fenerbahce 0-2 Chelsea/Chelsea 0-1 Besiktas

[Jase 43,479]

Fenerbahce 0-2 Chelsea/Chelsea 0-1 Besiktas
POST-MATCH DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS



2014/15 Pre-Season Friendly Match 7
8th August, Friday, 2014
Sukru Saracoglu Stadium, Istanbul
TBC Kick Off (UK time)

Two 45-minute matches

[stroey 2,525]

Motm:Costa

[Madmax 9,219]

I ain't even mad; that was much closer to what I was looking for - pressing, combinations and movement. Second half was a bit wank but I could understand it because clearly the manager was trying out a different setup. Overall, Cesc has slotted right in (esp. at 8) and Matic looks fine, Oscar and Schurrle were sharp, DC was top class and I had fun watching. Good game(s).

[Dion 2,476]

The game vs. Fenerbahce is exactly how I'd like to see us play - the pressing and the movement/overlapping was sharp, Hazard drifting to the middle, Oscar and Cesc interchanging positions, Costa and Oscar pressing high, Schurrle and Hazard being very direct and impactful, everything seemed fluid. On the other hand, the 4-3-3 vs. Besiktas seemed like it had never been trained before and despite keeping possession we rarely ever looked dangerous. I'm not discarding it yet, but it seems Mourinho hasn't trained that before - the midfield looked a bit confused about who should do what attacking wise.

[zolayes 14,489]

a POLITE request .. could the match thread remain open until this thread is

[edetarod 2,155]

too reminiscent of last season that last 45 minutes

[The only place to be 11,313]

The first-half was everything we should be looking to do next season, the second-half was everything wrong with us last season.

Impressed with the directness we played with in the first-half. Schurrle was making great runs beyond Costa (especially for his goal), Fabregas pinged the ball around superbly and Oscar was getting into dangerous positions.

Second-half was slow, ponderous and reminiscent of so many matches from last season.

Cech is also a concern. Looks dodgy at crosses, has the yips and Courtois needs to start.

[Billy. 2,742]

one thing from this pre season WE need to sort out defending on corners

[zolayes 14,489]

as others have said the spark went out in the second game .. imo ramires offered nothing and willian not much more

[Pizy 18,913]

+ Diego Costa is awesome

+ Matic was great as usual

+ Fabregas looked much better deeper and should always play there

+ Hazard steadily getting sharper

+ Filipe Luis looked great defensively

- Ramires still can't go for 30 seconds without fouling

- Cahill was all over the place

- Filipe Luis isn't quite there yet going forward

- Our defending overall is pretty worrying in preseason

[Sheva. 5,373]

Too much "control" in that 2nd game, but nothing in attack. But obviously a few key players had gone off or were tired etc.

Overall good games - just disappointed with another mistake from a corner by Cech, and how much worse we look without Costa upfront, meh.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Costa, Class.

Matic is pretty much our best player in the preseason

Oscar played well looks very comfortable playing with new teammates.

Fab needs to come and find the ball more and he needs to continue to run from deep.

Hazard looked off in his first appearance and better in the second.

Cahill isn't my fave player, don't like the way he is always backing off of attackers.

Luis, for me starts on the bench this year.

Willian is def off the bench.

Schurrle looks top quality

Salah could be a nice change of pace sub

Ramires still adds loads to this squad

Courtois is my keeper at the beginning of the season

[zolayes 14,489]

voted for costa in 1st game ..would have voted for none in second but sincw we forced to went for cesc

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Ramires shouldn't be starting, but I did like what I saw from him. Legs and work rate which helped greatly in choking the life out of Besiktas.

Replace Willian with Schurrle and no doubt the formation would have looked more dangerous.

[Dion 2,476]

- Our defending overall is pretty worrying in preseason

I feel we're just a few tweaks away of being good to go. We rarely ever looked in danger of conceding. That last corner was unfortunate, Cech failed and JT also missed the timing to clear it.

[romeeh 139]

costa,iva: Excellent in attack and defend

oscar: very good

hazard: very good

matic: very good

shurrle: very good

fabregas: good

rameries:good

salah: good (not much time played)

terry:good

azp:good

luis: poor

willian:pooor

drogba:pooor

torres:invisable

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Knowing Mourinho, his arrogant enough to keep starting Ramires

[bababoom 4,478]

Did Cesc play the whole game? i could only watch the first half.

[zolayes 14,489]

Knowing Mourinho, his arrogant enough to keep starting Ramires

OK LETS start with Ramires Mikel Willian and Torres ...FEEL THE PAIN

[Daniel1980 1,425]

It must be said that our players were playing against fresher players in the second half and against a different team, and our players were much fresher than Fenerbahce players in the first half. So considering this, it's not really fair to judge what formation works better based on these too games. Mostly everyone played well. Even in the second game we controlled the game and looked organized, good short passing between players, we controlled possession well and made few mistakes. As Dion said, it didn't look like we trained 4-3-3 much, so it's not surprising that we didn't look very dangerous in the attack. It will come. I think both options are viable, depending on the opposition.