We're A Selling Club, 'Redefined'.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Managerial instability. To not produce ONE player ever since Terry in 1998??? Cmon, I know its extremely hard to give youth a chance with new coach every two years, but still that aint excuse. Lack of trust and constant desire of geting short term success is more guilty for youth not developing as they should.

Managerial instability + the fact that we always wanted to compete short term wise is the reason why, definitely. It isn't that hard to understand. How do you expect a manager to trust any youth player when their job is constantly on the line?

Tell me, who was the last player that came out of Real Madrid's academy and is now a valuable for them? We aren't the only clubs that have this problem. Hopefully now with Mourinho back here for quite a while and the team finally being pretty complete and balanced, we'll see more youngsters coming through.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Managerial instability + the fact that we always wanted to compete short term wise is the reason why, definitely. It isn't that hard to understand.

Tell me, who was the last player that came out of Real Madrid's academy and is now a valuable for them?

I dont give single fuck about Real and their youth players. Perez is one of most deluded people in world football. Business man, not football club president.

Bayern in 2007 was without CL,one of their lowest lows in recent history, much like we in 2010 but their board gave chance to german youth players who eventualy brought team to were it is now. Its about a system and with Roman + Chelsea will never give youth product. He can tell whatever he wants, give chance to whoever manager, but at the end he will change opinion after one year. Roman gave this club alot, but youth is something that wont profit out of that I think.

We have RLC and Baker in team, yet we went to buy Romeu one year, we get tired, we buy Ginkel, Pasalic, next year it will be someone else. No wonder Baker (just setting example) wont succeed if such system will be going on here. And if club is putting sheer profit of these buys to generate more money ahead of youth system...well thats sad.

In 2017, I prefer developed Baker in first 11 than 80m of profit. I almost forgot how it feels to have english, youth system player growing in his game season after season. It was great watching Terry and Lamps (who isnt our youth but still) grow and develop in our team to one of best in their position.

[MichaelDance 552]

I suppose it's down to the players, they expect to play every time, but they aren't getting that and want to leave. We can't keep people who don't want to be here. Their performance drops and that effects us as a club. But I stand by our manager.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Is somekind of partnership with Soton possible? They lack players, we could loan them a few of our youth for next 2 years

[MichaelDance 552]

Is somekind of partnership with Soton possible? They lack players, we could loan them a few of our youth for next 2 years

Let's loan them Torres lol

[Amblève. 4,995]

Bayern in 2007 was without CL,one of their lowest lows in recent history, much like we in 2010 but their board gave chance to german youth players who eventualy brought team to were it is now. Its about a system and with Roman + Chelsea will never give youth product. He can tell whatever he wants, give chance to whoever manager, but at the end he will change opinion after one year. Roman gave this club alot, but youth is something that wont profit out of that I think.

If you look back the Bundesliga was at one of its lowest lows, too, that time when Bayern was struggling. Not saying we shouldn't have brought a academy player through but using Bayern/Bundesliga as a comparison isn't ideal. One could argue that Bayern should have called up youth players when Dortmund won two league titles in a row instead of completing multi-million transfers but they're smarter than that. They know that moneys wins titles.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

The problem with that strategy, it is immoral and to an extent unethical as it stagnates younger players development. Out of the 4 players sold all of them were supposed to be in the first team. Mata was a first team regular, Kevin was supposed to be Malouda's replacement when we finished 6th, Lukaku was supposed to be our future. Look at players like Josh, van aanholt, Bertrand whose careers we have ruined through this policy of loaning out

Lukaku thanked Chelsea in his move for bringing him to England. So that itself debunks your theory that we are ruining players careers.

Chelsea, as a top club, can't afford to risk too much youth unless they're world class. None of the above mentioned English lads have shown they're good enough to play for title-winning side.

[ZanSnake 1,211]

I think it is the abundance of an unstable structure of managerial ideas around the system they want to incorporate in the long-term to the short-term. When AVB was here, he was spouting for the future but couldn't have the ideal of a present time period. We have made some way into the fold by ridding the oldest overall to the youngest, but need to find the structure to push through the players.

And the only way to physically see the moment of bleeding in a young/youth player is through the dedication and determination through youth level, training and the 'minor' games that they CAN be given. It's fair enough if one coach see potential in a player to match a certain style, if only he can over-see the development - not short-changed at the period of progression.

The influence that we garner from prize money also bounds onto this, the endorsements that comes from a CL win or PL win holds the club's stature to a high level and too a high competitive level. For that we need a stable manager that has a clear goal on what he wants for the future, what he needs to do now to uphold the stature of the club and be advised with options from the lower levels of the 'Chelsea chain'. It is as much as the Youth Development side if they advise a payer needs to be loaned or not, and in hindsight be able to constantly be aware of their progression.

Been so many loans that have never worked or done any good for the youth players that it rather hampers the time then heightens it.

[coolhead23 1,147]

_{Not sure if we have found a "niche" here ... aren't the Portugal clubs already doing the same specially Porto ... they make loads of money by selling their players, maybe we went little more younger ...}

_{Arsenal is another example who have become a feeder club (off late) ...
We have take this on another level ... Our Men in Black really have done a great job and it wouldn't be a ease benchmark to keep up with ...}

_{The only f*** up with this "could be" if every one follow our roadmap is that the younger players would start getting damn expensive}

_{And the debate going on outside that we are ruining youth is just stupid and naive ... infact we are making sure that our youth (or any young player who joins us) are atleast trying to fight for place in team who are playing competitive football across various league (I would love them to start in our 11 but ...) rather than being struck in only youth teams and reserves.}

[Spike 12,049]

This is what Ajax have been doing forever. It's nothing new. Ajax bring up a talent and the sells them for a soild price increase. Ibrahimovic, Van der Vaart, Sneijder, Eriksen, de Jong, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, van der Wiel, Suarez, Bergkamp, van der Sar, Frank and Ronald de Boer, Overmars, van Basten among others.

They may be far away from their heyday but they are very competitive in the Netherlands and they are financially healthy.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I do not find any negatives in this approach, its a win win situation for both the players and the club.If the young player is loaned and explode like Lukaku and De Bruyne they'll be either part of the first team if José find a place for them, if not we can sell them for a great fee, which will result of us getting players on top that will fill the real needs (Like Fabregas and Costa).So the young player if he cant find a place here, he'll be in a top club, rather than vegetating in reserves.I dont know but I feel its a nice little revolution.

[Fernando 6,585]

Guys there's a difference.

Porto and Ajax have them in their team, we just loan them and then sell them.

While as some people view it as unethical I say as long as we are not breaking any rules anything is fine.