Diego Costa

[The Skipper 20,593]

No it's not. Specially when u compare ATM to stoke. Think how awesome other la liga clubs must be.

He wasn't comparing ATM to Stoke, he was comparing Rayo to Stoke.

[Rekin 835]

Dear god, this is so silly.
Almost every striker has gone through a drought. it does not automatically make them poor. Costa has played on a high level for the past three seasons.
I do not understand why you are bringing up Sturridge suddenly, first of all the comparison was between Torres & Costa, second of all Sturridge has shown himself to be an excellent striker.
What does the League positions of the two teams have to do with anything?
Soldado scored a lot of goals because Valencia played in a way that suited him. He was very good at a certain thing, a thing he has not been allowed to do at Spurs. It has very little to do with how good either league is.

When it comes to the comparison between Stoke and Atletico you are really trying my patience. I thought it was very very obvious that the comparison was between Stoke and Rayo (and before you again misunderstand the comparison, it was about league positions, not style of play).
When it comes to youtube compilations you are such a walking cliché. I am not talking about some speed/camera-edited masterpieces, but merely normal videos showing Costa scoring goals. There is nothing to add there, you only need to see how he acted when he scored.
He goes down easily at times, but most of the time it is when he realizes that he has lost the duel, at which point he is doing a last-ditch effort to win the ball through other means.

If you think our offensive midfield is as good as Bayern's then you are dreaming. They sure have the potential, but except Hazard they still have a way to go.

Anyway, I am done talking to you. You keep making assumptions based on nothing else but your own opinion and you keep misunderstanding what I am writing (first about Cavani, and now about Stoke). Costa has a great record and will be the perfect purchase for Chelsea (and just to be clear, this is my opinion based on what I have seen for the past two seasons, not based on 5-6 games in which he has/hasnt scored).

[didierforever 7,349]

He wasn't comparing ATM to Stoke, he was comparing Rayo to Stoke.

My bad.

But how is that different from lukaku scoring 17 goals for wba and yet most of the people saying that it was for a weaker team hence its not the same. Add to that the fact that la liga defensively is poor plus the gap of level between top teams and lower team is just immense there.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

Dear god, this is so silly.

Almost every striker has gone through a drought. it does not automatically make them poor. Costa has played on a high level for the past three seasons.

I do not understand why you are bringing up Sturridge suddenly, first of all the comparison was between Torres & Costa, second of all Sturridge has shown himself to be an excellent striker.

What does the League positions of the two teams have to do with anything?

Soldado scored a lot of goals because Valencia played in a way that suited him. He was very good at a certain thing, a thing he has not been allowed to do at Spurs. It has very little to do with how good either league is.

When it comes to the comparison between Stoke and Atletico you are really trying my patience. I thought it was very very obvious that the comparison was between Stoke and Rayo (and before you again misunderstand the comparison, it was about league positions, not style of play).

When it comes to youtube compilations you are such a walking cliché. I am not talking about some speed/camera-edited masterpieces, but merely normal videos showing Costa scoring goals. There is nothing to add there, you only need to see how he acted when he scored.

He goes down easily at times, but most of the time it is when he realizes that he has lost the duel, at which point he is doing a last-ditch effort to win the ball through other means.

If you think our offensive midfield is as good as Bayern's then you are dreaming. They sure have the potential, but except Hazard they still have a way to go.

Anyway, I am done talking to you. You keep making assumptions based on nothing else but your own opinion and you keep misunderstanding what I am writing (first about Cavani, and now about Stoke). Costa has a great record and will be the perfect purchase for Chelsea (and just to be clear, this is my opinion based on what I have seen for the past two seasons, not based on 5-6 games in which he has/hasnt scored).

The only thing I disagree with you here, if I may, is the point about Hazard. He is growing by the hour, but he is yet to show his consistency. But as far as talent I agree.

[Mohammed Seif 1,451]

My bad.

But how is that different from lukaku scoring 17 goals for wba and yet most of the people saying that it was for a weaker team hence its not the same. Add to that the fact that la liga defensively is poor plus the gap of level between top teams and lower team is just immense there.

Dude you talk about La Liga like it is some amateur league. It has some really good sides in it. The EPL is stronger, but the gap is not that great like you seem to think.

[didierforever 7,349]

Dear god, this is so silly.

Almost every striker has gone through a drought. it does not automatically make them poor. Costa has played on a high level for the past three seasons.

I do not understand why you are bringing up Sturridge suddenly, first of all the comparison was between Torres & Costa, second of all Sturridge has shown himself to be an excellent striker.

What does the League positions of the two teams have to do with anything?

Soldado scored a lot of goals because Valencia played in a way that suited him. He was very good at a certain thing, a thing he has not been allowed to do at Spurs. It has very little to do with how good either league is.

When it comes to the comparison between Stoke and Atletico you are really trying my patience. I thought it was very very obvious that the comparison was between Stoke and Rayo (and before you again misunderstand the comparison, it was about league positions, not style of play).

When it comes to youtube compilations you are such a walking cliché. I am not talking about some speed/camera-edited masterpieces, but merely normal videos showing Costa scoring goals. There is nothing to add there, you only need to see how he acted when he scored.

He goes down easily at times, but most of the time it is when he realizes that he has lost the duel, at which point he is doing a last-ditch effort to win the ball through other means.

If you think our offensive midfield is as good as Bayern's then you are dreaming. They sure have the potential, but except Hazard they still have a way to go.

Anyway, I am done talking to you. You keep making assumptions based on nothing else but your own opinion and you keep misunderstanding what I am writing (first about Cavani, and now about Stoke). Costa has a great record and will be the perfect purchase for Chelsea (and just to be clear, this is my opinion based on what I have seen for the past two seasons, not based on 5-6 games in which he has/hasnt scored).

My bad on on the rayo mix up.

But what highest level are u talking about. His stint in rayo was as good as lukaku's in wba. 17 goals and then loaned out. His last year in ATM was playing second fiddle to falcao on the wing. Hence he has had One good season at the highest level as a CF. The comparision with players is to prove a point which u simply don't seem to be getting. Add to that the fact that ATM play nothing like us. They play a systen in which the strikers (villa and costa) are the main men and the most pivotal to the team. We don't. We play a system where the striker plays second fiddle to our AMs.

I have season his goals this season. But more than that, I have season his performancrs. When u say , HE IS PHYSICAL, it means his way of play and not how physical he was for the goals. And in that aspect of his gane, his physicality is nothing to brag about

As for soldado, precisely my point which u made. He has struggles with the general physicality of the league along with the system. Same can easily be thought off for costa. Infact dont see how he becones a perfect fit (as u said), or even a better fit than mandzukic for us.

Our AMs might not be as good as bayern's but they are still very very good. In a year or so, they will be as good. More reason of having a striker who has been a success in that system.

Again with the great rexord??? Which great record??? What great record? U would think he was la liga's top scorer for last 3 seasons. The only reason he is getting so much hype is that he was that this season. I am basing my opinion on what I have seen of costa and nario. While u seem to have already made up your mind on that. I still have to get a valid argumwnt from u of how costa is a better fit than nario?

[didierforever 7,349]

Dude you talk about La Liga like it is some amateur league. It has some really good sides in it. The EPL is stronger, but the gap is not that great like you seem to think.

Thw point is not about how good the teams in la liga are but how much of a difference in level their is between say the 6th/7th placed teams to the top 2 or 3. And that gap simply keeps widening as u go further down the league.

[The only place to be 11,313]

As for soldado, precisely my point which u made. He has struggles with the general physicality of the league along with the system. Same can easily be thought off for costa. Infact dont see how he becones a perfect fit (as u said), or even a better fit than mandzukic for us.

Soldado is 5'10" and was never a physical threat. Costa is 6'2" and very physical, but he throws himself to the ground far too often. If you actually want to make a fair comparison then you'd look at how Negredo has coped with the physicality of the league.

[didierforever 7,349]

Soldado is 5'10" and was never a physical threat. Costa is 6'2" and very physical, but he throws himself to the ground far too often. If you actually want to make a fair comparison then you'd look at how Negredo has coped with the physicality of the league.

There was also the point of system that u conviniently missed.

[The only place to be 11,313]

There was also the point of system that u conviniently missed.

In the Madrid derby they played with Costa alone up front and he did a great job of making himself a nuisance, bringing other players into the game and providing a threat on the break. Honestly I don't quite know what the issue is with him. As a player I don't see anything to suggest that Mandzukic would be a better choice for us, if he's even available and for what price.

Costa is younger, he's in great form, he's available for a fair price and he would seem to fit what we want. I think some people just don't like his 'character' for whatever reason and have decided to stick with that view.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Thw point is not about how good the teams in la liga are but how much of a difference in level their is between say the 6th/7th placed teams to the top 2 or 3. And that gap simply keeps widening as u go further down the league.

Well PL in europe realy sucks for couple years now...more than La liga.

[didierforever 7,349]

In the Madrid derby they played with Costa alone up front and he did a great job of making himself a nuisance, bringing other players into the game and providing a threat on the break. Honestly I don't quite know what the issue is with him. As a player I don't see anything to suggest that Mandzukic would be a better choice for us, if he's even available and for what price.

Costa is younger, he's in great form, he's available for a fair price and he would seem to fit what we want. I think some people just don't like his 'character' for whatever reason and have decided to stick with that view.

I have twice told u why I think mandzukic is a better player for us and at what price he would be availabke. Not going to say it a 3rd time. Specially since u have not given me any rebuttal as to why u think costa's better.

Also if u had actually seen mario play then u ll know he is as big if nit a bigger " character" than costa. Hence your thinking that costa is being rejected simply cos of his character is just not right.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I have twice told u why I think mandzukic is a better player for us and at what price he would be availabke. Not going to say it a 3rd time. AAlso if u had actually seen mario play then u ll know he is as big if nit a bigger " character" than costa. Hence your thinking that costa is being rejected simply cos of his character is just not right.

So you've told me the price he would be available? How the fuck would you know the price Bayern would sell to us?

And I have seen Mandzukic play and I think he's a good player, like Costa. Here's the thing though....I know the price he would be available for to US. Mandzukic might be available because he's being replaced with a better striker but we don't know that for certain or for what price.

You're entitled to your opinion of who is better but people don't have to acquiesce to whatever reasoning you throw up there. It seems people are just highlighting to you that every single argument you've put could've used against the signing of Drogba.

[didierforever 7,349]

Well PL in europe realy sucks for couple years now...more than La liga.

are u trying to prove my point? PL is suffering cos of many reasons. The schedule with 2 domestic cups leading to fatogue. Plus the compwtition is IMMENSE in PL. Every match is compwtitive compared to what we see in bundesliga and la liga. Add to that the number of teams in which all the talented players can go to. Their will be atleast 3/4 title challengers to 3/4 title pretenders next season. That can only be possible if and only if each and evry team can boast a couple of world class players atleast. Conpare that to la liga or bundesliga where all the talent is centralized mainly in the top 2/3 teams. I think 100% of spain's NT team players who are playing in la liga would be from the top 3. Same goes for germany. Can u say the same about PL? With the likes of shaw, lambert, lalana, baines, jagielka etc.

Hence I say that the gap between top teams and bottom teams is MASSIVE in those leagues.

[didierforever 7,349]

So you've told me the price he would be available? How the fuck would you know the price Bayern would sell to us?

And I have seen Mandzukic play and I think he's a good player, like Costa. Here's the thing though....I know the price he would be available for to US. Mandzukic might be available because he's being replaced with a better striker but we don't know that for certain or for what price.

You're entitled to your opinion of who is better but people don't have to acquiesce to whatever reasoning you throw up there. It seems people are just highlighting to you that every single argument you've put could've used against the signing of Drogba.

And here we go again with the DD comparision. Hilarious!!!!!

Like I said before, let's sign every 25 year old who has had a good season (not even a whole season so farz n mind u) cos there just might be a chance that he ll be the next DD.

Don't think bayern would demand anything more than 32mil though. Defo not as great as 40mil ( if costa does sign the said extension and then it will just be LOL).

Also people don't have to acquiesce to my opinions but if we don't discuss about it then there goes the whole point of the system. And when people don't give a rebuttal to a very important argument about 2 players but tend to still continue arguing, then the other person prpbably would run out of things to say which is what has happened to me with u

[The only place to be 11,313]

And here we go again with the DD comparision. Hilarious!!!!!

Like I said before, let's sign every 25 year old who has had a good season (not even a whole season so farz n mind u) cos there just might be a chance that he ll be the next DD.

That's not what I'm saying. That has been explained to you but you don't seem able to understand it. It's just a point about the criticisms against him and how they could equally have been applied to Didier. Do you understand that now? Are you sure? Positive?

Don't think bayern would demand anything more than 32mil though. Defo not as great as 40mil ( if costa does sign the said extension and then it will just be LOL).

Don't be ashamed to say you don't know something, especially in this case when you don't.

Also people don't have to acquiesce to my opinions but if we don't discuss about it then there goes the whole point of the system. And when people don't give a rebuttal to a very important argument about 2 players but tend to still continue arguing, then the other person prpbably would run out of things to say which is what has happened to me with u

Your argument is that you think Mandzukic is better. That's it. Well done. Most people don't think there's much difference between the two but you've bought up ridiculous arguments involving Soldado for fuck knows what reason. But Costa is available for a set amount at this point in time, which makes him a realistic signing. Until there's more information about Mandzukic's cost and availability then I don't know why he's being mentioned.

[didierforever 7,349]

That's not what I'm saying. That has been explained to you but you don't seem able to understand it. It's just a point about the criticisms against him and how they could equally have been applied to Didier. Do you understand that now? Are you sure? Positive?

Don't be ashamed to say you don't know something, especially in this case when you don't.

Your argument is that you think Mandzukic is better. That's it. Well done. Most people don't think there's much difference between the two but you've bought up ridiculous arguments involving Soldado for fuck knows what reason. But Costa is available for a set amount at this point in time, which makes him a realistic signing. Until there's more information about Mandzukic's cost and availability then I don't know why he's being mentioned.

Hahagaga... very true dude. Cos we surely only discuss things that are official on this forum don't we? I mean expecting chalobah to be a part of our squad was absokutely perfect thing to discuss but not the slight possibilty of mandzukic cos well, u know why? We don't know his price. LOL.

Also all of here never speculate. I mean u of all people know everythin that the club does or what its been teying to do. I mean one day we are buying costa for 32 mil, next day he is in a player + cash swap with torres and the next day he is signing a new contract. But u definitely know everything.

About DD, like younameit said, not mentioning DD in this thread is the only decent thing to do (despite the humorous and stupid like fuck conparisions).

[The Skipper 20,593]

I have twice told u why I think mandzukic is a better player for us and at what price he would be availabke.

I have an interesting question for you - if both Mandzukic and Costa were available at £32m, would you still think Mandzukic is the better player for us?