The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Those prices sound much more realistic although there is a question about how Courtois fits into any of this. As for how he fits into the team, I love his movement. He's always keeping defenders busy and you'd hope that one of Hazard, Oscar and Willian would be capable of playing balls through to him. He's a massive unit as well and has that physicality we've lacked all season (Demba only recently learning how to play with his back to goal apparently) so should help create space for the AMs as well as being a good target for crosses.Of course I'm hesitant about signings of this nature because of our track record, but he seems to be Jose's choice and fit a lot of the criteria Jose likes in a striker. He's also got that nasty streak in him which we DO need ahead of the choirboys like Hazard and Oscar.Exciting times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cech's helmet 220 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 He's basically a worse version than Drogba. I don't like his shots, they're incredibly weak. I don't like his technical ability and his dribbling as someone said above, it's not smooth. he's not a naturally talented footballer. the only good thing about him is his strength. he's a bully and he wins balls because of his power than technical ability. I don't like these type of strikers (unless you're Drogba strong). I'd rather have someone like Aguero/Suarez who can dribble, have great shooting and create goals when they're not scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I think 35m would be excellent business. I've watched quite a bit of Atletico's games this season and I have the same question mark about Costa as a few others do - is he a great striker or is he a product of a very good Atleti side? His technical ability is decent but nothing exceptional and while his link-up play might be better than Falcao's but sometimes he could look really awkward with the ball at his feet - Ramires awkward.But on the other hand he strikes me as a late bloomer type of player and to be honest I see so many similarities between him and Drogba in his first season here - the way they both play, their attitude, their fighting nature, and I think Costa even has that bit of rawness in his game that Drogba also had back then. So while I wouldn't put him on the same level as the great strikers, but I do see a lot of potential in him to reach those heights and I think he'd do well here - especially under Mourinho. One can only hope. I think Costa is Ramires-awkward on the ball, but the difference is that he has better balance and strength up against defenders than some strikers we know in the Premier League. Also, his mentality is always in a state of "undeterred." just the way I see him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 He's basically a worse version than Drogba. I don't like his shots, they're incredibly weak. I don't like his technical ability and his dribbling as someone said above, it's not smooth. he's not a naturally talented footballer. the only good thing about him is his strength. he's a bully and he wins balls because of his power than technical ability. I don't like these type of strikers (unless you're Drogba strong). I'd rather have someone like Aguero/Suarez who can dribble, have great shooting and create goals when they're not scoring.Should we buy Ciro Immobile instead? I suggested Wilfried Bony last summer after we had been linked with him for months, but apparently Lukaku was going to be the next striker, according to the online forum users. Not sure who else Chelsea would consider right now. Dip into Ligue 1 again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 He's basically a worse version than Drogba. I don't like his shots, they're incredibly weak. I don't like his technical ability and his dribbling as someone said above, it's not smooth. he's not a naturally talented footballer. the only good thing about him is his strength. he's a bully and he wins balls because of his power than technical ability. I don't like these type of strikers (unless you're Drogba strong). I'd rather have someone like Aguero/Suarez who can dribble, have great shooting and create goals when they're not scoring.I think if you're comparing Costa now to Drogba in his prime, then obviously Drogba is the better player. But when Drogba was Costa's age, from what I remember I don't think there's much between them in terms of quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Well isn't this typical, Chelsea fans have wanked over this guy all season and when it gets reported that Mourinho has made Costa his primary target and that we're finally close to signing him (for a reasonable price if I might add), the same people begin questioning his talent and start suggesting other players instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Well isn't this typical, Chelsea fans have wanked over this guy all season and when it gets reported that Mourinho has made Costa his primary target and that we're finally close to signing him (for a reasonable price if I might add), the same people begin questioning his talent and start suggesting other players instead.Welcome to the life on an internet forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'd rather have £35m Costa with Lukaku as second choice instead of Cavani for about £50m if it means letting Lukaku go. £35m Costa plus keeping Lukaku is going to be best decision we'll be making all summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Costa won't flop like Torres because he has something that Torres doesn't.... heart and fucking soul!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Costa won't flop like Torres because he has something that Torres doesn't.... heart and fucking soul!!!!erm...... while that's a great trait on a personal level it doesn't really matter lol. Sheva had that at Milan, Torres had that Liverpool. In fact, from our strikers that did well they weren't that fussed about leaving their current clubs. Examples like Anelka, Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen. Drogba did have a connection with Marseille, but not that great.If anything, heart and soul at one club usually doesn't help when the player leaves that club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 erm...... while that's a great trait on a personal level it doesn't really matter lol. Sheva had that at Milan, Torres had that Liverpool. In fact, from our strikers that did well they weren't that fussed about leaving their current clubs. Examples like Anelka, Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen. Drogba did have a connection with Marseille, but not that great.If anything, heart and soul at one club usually doesn't help when the player leaves that club.He got the gut, he doesn't score he will try to provoke and dive for penalties/free kicks/to get opponents booked. We missed that, no more mr nice guy at ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 erm...... while that's a great trait on a personal level it doesn't really matter lol. Sheva had that at Milan, Torres had that Liverpool. In fact, from our strikers that did well they weren't that fussed about leaving their current clubs. Examples like Anelka, Hasselbaink, Gudjohnsen. Drogba did have a connection with Marseille, but not that great.If anything, heart and soul at one club usually doesn't help when the player leaves that club.I didn't mean it in that sense. I was reffering to the fat that Costa actually tries. He doesn't stop even when he is playing badly which is something Torres doesn't do here at Chelsea. AndThat to me does matter!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Should we buy Ciro Immobile instead? I suggested Wilfried Bony last summer after we had been linked with him for months, but apparently Lukaku was going to be the next striker, according to the online forum users. Not sure who else Chelsea would consider right now. Dip into Ligue 1 again? Lacazette, anyone? Costa is good, I've seen a lot of him, he's a great signing. Cheap too. Strong, great finishing, good link up play. It'll take a season to adjust but he'll still do good. 25+ goals in his first season, I think.He's basically a worse version than Drogba. I don't like his shots, they're incredibly weak. I don't like his technical ability and his dribbling as someone said above, it's not smooth. he's not a naturally talented footballer. the only good thing about him is his strength. he's a bully and he wins balls because of his power than technical ability. I don't like these type of strikers (unless you're Drogba strong). I'd rather have someone like Aguero/Suarez who can dribble, have great shooting and create goals when they're not scoring.Aguero/Suarez are REALLY EXPENSIVE! Of course we'd all rather have one of them. Why not get Zlatan? Costa is good, real good. What's it matter if he's not the most technically sound, he gets the job done. That's what matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 He got the gut, he doesn't score he will try to provoke and dive for penalties/free kicks/to get opponents booked. We missed that, no more mr nice guy at STI didn't mean it in that sense. I was reffering to the fat that Costa actually tries. He doesn't stop even when he is playing badly which is something Torres doesn't do here at Chelsea.AndThat to me does matter!!I get that, honestly I do. But you're taking someone out of an environment where they've shined, excelled, been a cunt, pulled out all the stops etc. and putting him into a brand new one. Just because those traits lie with a player in one environment, doesn't mean they'll get transferred when the player does.I'm speaking generically here though, in the context of Costa himself I really hope he takes these qualities and continues applying them if he is come here. I just don't want us to put all our eggs in one basket, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo11bluecl 207 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I get that, honestly I do. But you're taking someone out of an environment where they've shined, excelled, been a cunt, pulled out all the stops etc. and putting him into a brand new one. Just because those traits lie with a player in one environment, doesn't mean they'll get transferred when the player does.I'm speaking generically here though, in the context of Costa himself I really hope he takes these qualities and continues applying them if he is come here. I just don't want us to put all our eggs in one basket, so to speak.So if he moves here he will suddenly become mr nice guy aka Torres in your opinion? Torres has always been a nice guy all his career, he has never been the one to kick up the fuss but rather the 1 that flourished on confidence from others in him. Btw this new environment thing is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So if he moves here he will suddenly become mr nice guy aka Torres in your opinion? Torres has always been a nice guy all his career, he has never been the one to kick up the fuss but rather the 1 that flourished on confidence from others in him. Btw this new environment thing is overrated.Nope, not suggesting that, I'm simply suggesting a period of adjustment will take place were he won't be all guns blazing. Whether he can overcome that or not, is up to him..I also believe the 'new environment thing is overrated' statement isn't right. Already this season you see guys like Soldado, Giroud etc failing to adapt when so prolific in their previous leagues. Of course on the other side you have guys like Negredo who do adapt. Like I said, I'm not saying for sure Costa will not adapt and I hope he does. Just giving a bit of perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Costa won't flop like Torres because he has something that Torres doesn't.... heart and fucking soul!!!!He's undeterred and persistent. Unfazed by the opponent, the challenge. That mentality and his physical presence make up for his technical shortcomings and lack of pace. I'm hoping he goes on to score plenty of goals for Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 So if he moves here he will suddenly become mr nice guy aka Torres in your opinion? Torres has always been a nice guy all his career, he has never been the one to kick up the fuss but rather the 1 that flourished on confidence from others in him. Btw this new environment thing is overrated.ermm criticising team mates (the controversial lack of creativity accusation interview), constant moaning at refs, unprofessional mannerism when things aren't going his way, the Munich farce, throwing a fit over being subbed off amongst other things aren't attitude and character traits often associated with "nice guys". this myth has to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Honestly, people are overstating his lack of technical skills. Yes, he isn't Aguero or Suarez but he's still good technically. Maybe he has an ugly dribbling style but so did Drogba, didn't mean Didier was bad technically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 dont get why people are talking about his technique. he is playing in spain, a league where especially technique is needed and he is doing great there. he is no Ibrahmiovic, Suarez or Aguero, but he is very good technically. also, he is quite fast.According to goal.com, they deal is as good as done. 42,5 m euros (I know goal arent really reliable)http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2014/04/17/4758063/chelsea-close-in-on-425m-diego-costa-deal?ICID=HP_TS_1futhermore he is mentally very strong. he had a goul drought this season, but he came out of it by his own. Torres probably would have burried himself alive at this phase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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