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On 2 July 2016 at 11:07 PM, BlueLyon said:

Spain wont ever win title with him on pitch and IMO we wont either. He is great at passing, decent on the ball and piss when not in possesion. Worst, for someone with such ball control, he is below average at hold up and dribbling. Guess Parolo would do better under Conte.

We won the title with him in our midfield.... 

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On ‎22‎/‎07‎/‎2016 at 10:55 AM, Hybrid Angel said:

I literally don't have a clue where he will fit into Conte's plans this coming season. 

Can see Mr.Conte probly not this season but next playing 3 at the back giving us a extra midfield slot alas giving Fab a position or do something like he did with Pirlo+Juve if he feels that is the right way to go, if not it might be goodbye, 4 Fabregas is all the about the passes+assists but defending is a liability to the team and can't see him lasting long in a midfield 2 !

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Still just have vivid memories of De Bruyne just breezing through our midfield over and over again last season when they smoked us. 

At least against the very best teams like City he absolutely cannot play in a midfield 2. Really, against any side that plays with more than 2 in the center we should think very carefully about playing Cesc. 

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Can't believe I'm saying this, but I would much much rather have Oscar in a midfield two than Cesc. Cesc can put in a tackle here and there but he lacks athleticism and ability to resist pressure by taking a quick touch away and driving forward which is what we're going to need from our midfielders. He is such a limited midfielder and imo he will never work in a midfield two. Not someone we can rely on when it comes to transitioning between defence and attack. 

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Just now, Hybrid Angel said:

Can't believe I'm saying this, but I would much much rather have Oscar in a midfield two than Cesc. Cesc can put in a tackle here and there but he lacks athleticism and ability to resist pressure by taking a quick touch away and driving forward which is what we're going to need from our midfielders. He is such a limited midfielder and imo he will never work in a midfield two. Not someone we can rely on when it comes to transitioning between defence and attack. 

 

Fabregas is the only midfielder who can pass in our team. He is crucial to keep moving the ball around. He was our best player until the tackle. 

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3 minutes ago, nono said:

 

Fabregas is the only midfielder who can pass in our team. He is crucial to keep moving the ball around. He was our best player until the tackle. 

No one doubts that but he is not dynamic or athletic enough to play in a midfield two. Don't wanna imagine the horror against any decent pressing team.

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We need to force 4-2-4 with Fabregas and Kante on pivot. Imagine if that works out...

Also, I think we need to transition to something like 4-3-2-1 (4-5-1) in defense (we all know Hazard won't track back that much):

--------------  * defense * -----------------

----- Willian - Fabregas - Kante -----

- second-striker -------------------------

------------------------------------ Hazard -

----------------- Costa ----------------------

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16 hours ago, Pizy said:

Still just have vivid memories of De Bruyne just breezing through our midfield over and over again last season when they smoked us. 

At least against the very best teams like City he absolutely cannot play in a midfield 2. Really, against any side that plays with more than 2 in the center we should think very carefully about playing Cesc. 

Yeah agree m8, the way round that is have 2 dm and then Fabregas in front of them , my way of thinking is either Conte will try a Juve/Pirlo system with him or he will be benched(maybe he can improve him?!) , can see not this season but nxt having Zouma<Christensen>Koulibaly as a proper back 3 and having the extra man for midfield

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Why not just copy Juve's 4-3-3 regista lineup? Put Fabregas in the Pirlo hole in front of the defenders, then have 2 midfield destroyers in front of him, Kante + Friend, just like Vidal & Marchisio were the legs that protected the slow geezer with impeccable passing (exactly our own scenario). The crucial player would be whoever partners Kante & protects Fabregas, because he needs to defend for the latter and make up for the lack of passing ability in the former.* Our usual Hazard/Willian wings + a striker who's actually motivated every game, boom, not the best on paper but perhaps the best on the field.

*On paper Oscar fills this role perfectly. On an actual field however, he does not. So it won't be him.

Fabregas has no right to play any farther forward with his lack of legs, and he has no right playing in just a 2-man midfield with his lack of agility coupled with his priority to look out passes instead of intercepting them. He simply needs to be in a 3 man midfield and i think it'd work best how Juve did things.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Juventus want Fabregas? Earl opens, the Bianconeri we think

Matic first choice, Chelsea have other ideas and "offers" Cesc

http://www.tuttosport.com/news/calcio/serie-a/juventus/calciomercato/2016/08/12-14294829/juventus_vuoi_fabregas_conte_apre_i_bianconeri_ci_pensano/

I cant see it.

I know hes not the fastest or most defensive minded but must be our most creative. He needs time and spoace to do his shit so a N'Golo-Matic/Chalobah with Cescy playing deep would work great me thinks.

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