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[coolhead23 1,147]

1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Follow up to question 1: If I told you I thought I knew more about how to run a football club that the people who actually do it I could hardly be surprised if you doubted me. For that reason I think it would be foolish to imagine that the rationale you described is not blindingly obvious to everyone. Even so it was not done. Whatever the reason, there had to be a reason and a compelling one at that. That's before we even get to questions about whether the facts you've read are accurate. They almost certainly are not.

We fans have virtually no information. The club has it all. Only if we had that information, and an intimate knowledge of the club's financial plans, could we make sensible decisions. Otherwise we're just guessing and blundering about in the dark.

I complete agree with the answer ... there is a distinct reason why they are there & we here. Whatever you mentioned is THE obvious. 

However if there are things which happens once or twice it can be passed off but if there is constant inefficiency then fans will voice it, come up with theories with whatever info or no info we have. Fans will voice their frustration, take out time and write/speak because they love their the club even if it means that no one in the officially capacity are going to hear them or there wouldnt be any solution. 

Isnt that the purpose of all these forums else we all will be only nodding our heads in agreement on what the club does. 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

45 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

First question then. How would you have resolved the head coach situation more quickly?

I do think FROM WHAT WE HAVE READ that things could have been sorted quicker.

Sarris initial buyout was 8me. It ended yp that APPARENTLY we paid no monetary payment for him BUT Jorgis price ended up much more than was suffested.

We could have easily paid off Conti too. But now we will have a court battle bringing out our dirty wash and probably end up paying out of court plus all the expenses etc.

It could have gone quicker and smoother. But she had to play the tough cop!

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

WC year and early deadline day is deadly combination duo. Also late manager changes, Napoli's president stubbornness, Roman's visa, the snake's maneuver really didn't help at all. Almost all the 'problems' we're facing will not exist if our deadline day is 31st August alone.

So, here we are know, if we manage to sign Fekir, offloading DD/Baka in the process at deadline day, think we're doing quite well. Yes, some could be done quickly, but it's not walk in the park job that.

[the wes 7,212]

we all moan about Marina I would rather have her than Daniel levy he's making a balls up at Spurs 😂😂 which is good to see 😂😂

[manpe 10,861]

we all moan about Marina I would rather have her than Daniel levy he's making a balls up at Spurs [emoji23][emoji23] which is good to see [emoji23][emoji23]

Tbh I'd rather moan WITH Marina, than about her, if you know what I mean [emoji848]

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[Unionjack 7,531]

7 minutes ago, manpe said:

Tbh I'd rather moan WITH Marina, than about her, if you know what I mean

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Nah I reckon shes a hard faced chick normally and she puts on a media smile

[manpe 10,861]

Nah I reckon shes a hard faced chick normally and she puts on a media smile

That's how I like em

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[Unionjack 7,531]

Just now, manpe said:

That's how I like em

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Masochist

[manpe 10,861]

Masochist

Or I simply have to make sure there are cameras in the room [emoji57]

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[Unionjack 7,531]

Just now, manpe said:

Or I simply have to make sure there are cameras in the room

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hahaha You nutter

[manpe 10,861]

2 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

hahaha You nutter

She'd know everything about me being a "nutter" after I'm done 

[Unionjack 7,531]

4 minutes ago, manpe said:

She'd know everything about me being a "nutter" after I'm done 

Scared myself earlier having my brekky vape and I suddenly thought of T'boas sex face! Had to throw myself about to get the thought out of my head! lol

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

Scared myself earlier having my brekky vape and I suddenly thought of T'boas sex face! Had to throw myself about to get the thought out of my head! lol

I think his ex would agree.

[Jase 43,479]

 

 

[Vesper 30,224]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

Granovskaia will continue to take the lead over player transfer and contract negotiations.

 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

We need a DOF with some knowledge of football.

He should be in charge of the scouting team and all incoming outgoing transfers. And work hand in glove with the manager in all matters.

Granny is for making the deal happen that the DOF wants doing.

2 totally separate jobs.

Or is she now a dictatorship?

 

Chelsea step up search for new technical director to succeed Michael Emenalo

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/15/chelsea-step-search-new-technical-director-succeed-michael-emenalo/

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

Agree about the manager but our are basically told they are purely the head coach

But I think they should always have a big say and have a veto.

[Jase 43,479]

56 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

Speaking the obvious but the most important thing about getting the Director of Football is that the person has to be on the same page as the manager. If they are, then it could work out like Txiki Begiristain and Guardiola at Man City right now. If one person is thinking A and the other thinking B, then problems will definitely arise. There is a piece on the DoF situation at Man United on ESPN FC and I largely agreed with the points made on that position.

http://global.espn.com/football/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/3597132/for-manchester-united-is-a-director-of-football-the-answer

In the best cases, a DoF brings outstanding talent to a club and works closely with its managers. Txiki Begiristain, for example, has worked with Pep Guardiola at Barcelona and Manchester City. Monchi, now at Roma, set the template for a whole club when at Sevilla, where he spotted players like Dani Alves and Ivan Rakitic.

Such people know football and can not only evaluate a prospective signing based on ability but also assess whether or not he can fit into a system. What is more, those players might not necessarily be the biggest names; a tactic United have often used with patchy results.

For the DoF model to work, there would need to be compromise on all sides; when a manager and director of football do not work together, it can be negative and destabilizing at a club. When they do, they can help each other do their job better.

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A good DoF is adept at identifying talent and negotiating transfers and would know if player X at Barcelona or Real Madrid was genuinely seeking a move, as opposed to using any "interest" in United to get himself a better deal at his current club. Knowledge and contacts are vital in DoF role and ideally, in these days of managers' ever-shorter stays in one place, they can look to the longer term.

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A director of football will not be a panacea for every transfer market issue. However having a skilled, respected operator, who works and cares for the club, could be a significant asset.