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[manpe 10,861]

Masochist

Or I simply have to make sure there are cameras in the room [emoji57]

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[Unionjack 7,531]

Just now, manpe said:

Or I simply have to make sure there are cameras in the room

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hahaha You nutter

[manpe 10,861]

2 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

hahaha You nutter

She'd know everything about me being a "nutter" after I'm done 

[Unionjack 7,531]

4 minutes ago, manpe said:

She'd know everything about me being a "nutter" after I'm done 

Scared myself earlier having my brekky vape and I suddenly thought of T'boas sex face! Had to throw myself about to get the thought out of my head! lol

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, Unionjack said:

Scared myself earlier having my brekky vape and I suddenly thought of T'boas sex face! Had to throw myself about to get the thought out of my head! lol

I think his ex would agree.

[Jase 43,479]

 

 

[Vesper 30,081]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

Granovskaia will continue to take the lead over player transfer and contract negotiations.

 

[kellzfresh 7,229]

25 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

 

[Unionjack 7,531]

We need a DOF with some knowledge of football.

He should be in charge of the scouting team and all incoming outgoing transfers. And work hand in glove with the manager in all matters.

Granny is for making the deal happen that the DOF wants doing.

2 totally separate jobs.

Or is she now a dictatorship?

 

Chelsea step up search for new technical director to succeed Michael Emenalo

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/15/chelsea-step-search-new-technical-director-succeed-michael-emenalo/

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

Agree about the manager but our are basically told they are purely the head coach

But I think they should always have a big say and have a veto.

[Jase 43,479]

56 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Having a director of football is a double ended sword. Plenty pros but also plenty cons. Ultimately I think if you have a good manager you should give him the power to sign players. If you have a manager with a good reputation or has a clear philosophy, good players will want to play for them anyway. Fair enough you see guys like Mochi who has done an amazing job with Sevilla firstly and also doing well at Roma and the guy who I believe was at Monaco? Lucas Campos? But again, known this clubs behaviour and patterns regarding managers, signings and all the other stuff, do these guys get final say over a manager in regards to a player? If things go wrong do they get more control in football related things than a manager? Or for example, what about Avram Grant for instance when he was here before he became manager, there was serious talk that his position as DOF undermined Mourinho's as manager and that among other things ultimately led to his dismissal and Grant being put in place as the manager. If a DOF appointment is made it has to be right guy and they have to be kept in check to do certain things. The thing is as well its not exactly a well refined position as every club that has one, their DOF do different jobs entirely than some of the other ones. It is very much a delicate decision to find the right one.

Speaking the obvious but the most important thing about getting the Director of Football is that the person has to be on the same page as the manager. If they are, then it could work out like Txiki Begiristain and Guardiola at Man City right now. If one person is thinking A and the other thinking B, then problems will definitely arise. There is a piece on the DoF situation at Man United on ESPN FC and I largely agreed with the points made on that position.

http://global.espn.com/football/club/manchester-united/360/blog/post/3597132/for-manchester-united-is-a-director-of-football-the-answer

In the best cases, a DoF brings outstanding talent to a club and works closely with its managers. Txiki Begiristain, for example, has worked with Pep Guardiola at Barcelona and Manchester City. Monchi, now at Roma, set the template for a whole club when at Sevilla, where he spotted players like Dani Alves and Ivan Rakitic.

Such people know football and can not only evaluate a prospective signing based on ability but also assess whether or not he can fit into a system. What is more, those players might not necessarily be the biggest names; a tactic United have often used with patchy results.

For the DoF model to work, there would need to be compromise on all sides; when a manager and director of football do not work together, it can be negative and destabilizing at a club. When they do, they can help each other do their job better.

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A good DoF is adept at identifying talent and negotiating transfers and would know if player X at Barcelona or Real Madrid was genuinely seeking a move, as opposed to using any "interest" in United to get himself a better deal at his current club. Knowledge and contacts are vital in DoF role and ideally, in these days of managers' ever-shorter stays in one place, they can look to the longer term.

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A director of football will not be a panacea for every transfer market issue. However having a skilled, respected operator, who works and cares for the club, could be a significant asset.