!Hazard! 3,394 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, mccg said: ZOUMA TO EVERTON? Everton are closing in on a loan deal for Chelsea defender Kurt Zouma, according to L’Equipe. Another club we shouldnt be helping out  Everton might take points off our rivals so it's a great deal. He can't play against us you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, !Hazard! said: Everton might take points off our rivals so it's a great deal. He can't play against us you know from us too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 hour ago, xPetrCechx said: from us too... SO can Fulham and Wolves who have done well this window. So have West Ham in some way, Pellgrini is going to make them a lot better then they were last season, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 2 hours ago, !Hazard! said: Everton might take points off our rivals so it's a great deal. He can't play against us you know Yeah but Everton have been cunts with us in the past...Glad he didnt go there,when u r looking at that angle its pretty sad,with or without Zouma Everton might take points off rivals,shouldnt be looking at rivals , look after are own affairs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Has this happened or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 We still don't know, nothing has been confirmed yet but the deal sheet was in and apparently had a medical so think done but it's just a delayed announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 'NO NEWS ON ZOUMA UNTIL FRIDAY' SSN reporters Alan Myers with a quick update on Everton's ongoing pursuit of Chelsea defender Kurt Zouma. "We are still waiting to hear about Everton's attempts to sign France centre-back Kurt Zouma on a season-long loan," said Myers at Finch Farm. "But we will not hear anything until tomorrow morning, say the club." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blusan Alamb 295 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Official Confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 hours ago, Polo7 said: Has this happened or what? Its happened Polo7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Hope he has a good season and is able to come back and fit in with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Does that mean PL clubs can still do loans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Tomo said: Does that mean PL clubs can still do loans? No, it was just a late announcement. the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 According to transfermarkt Everton are paying a loan fee of £7.11m if that true that's smart business form the board https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/transfers/spieler/157509/transfer_id/2219671 Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 14/08/2018 at 7:28 PM, the wes said: According to transfermarkt Everton are paying a loan fee of £7.11m if that true that's smart business form the board https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jumplist/transfers/spieler/157509/transfer_id/2219671 Last year Stoke paid that , hes like a expensive dvd you used to rent Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Zouma not giving up Chelsea dream, ready to give his all for Everton https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2018/8/29/17794152/zouma-not-giving-up-chelsea-dream-ready-to-give-his-all-for-everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Zouma Buoyed By Everton's Team Spirit http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/10/29/kurt-zouma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Still baffles me how we completely killed him off after that injury. He was a starter, then picked up serious injury and after he came back, you knew there was no plans for him anymore. We didnt want to give him any serious playtime. Look how City treated Benjamin Mendy inury. He was out for almost a year, but not for a second Pep forgot about him. As soon he was fit, he came back in squad, got few games and then regular spot. And here the club was planing on loaning Zouma out because he needs to play whole season first before he could play here. Seriously? Why not just gel him in aquad? We had Cahill who was bad anyway. Its absolutely pathetic the way we deal with these young players. One day you are hot shit, then injury or mistake and you are completely out. Same with Christensen. Undisputed starter before that barca fuckup. Sure he was bad there but then the club froze him out completely. As if he forgot how to play. And surely he has low confidence after being treated that way. He might have few shit games, but with full backing his confidence would rise and he would improve last season. manpe, Johnnyeye, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:  Its absolutely pathetic the way we deal with these young players. One day you are hot shit, then injury or mistake and you are completely out. Same with Christensen. Undisputed starter before that barca fuckup. Sure he was bad there but then the club froze him out completely. As if he forgot how to play. And surely he has low confidence after being treated that way. He might have few shit games, but with full backing his confidence would rise and he would improve last season. Few shit games ? The guy went through a lenghty period where he was giving the ball away in dangerous areas nearly every game. Christensen only has himself to blame. He was making far too many mistakes. You can get away with a couple of mistakes but he just looked completely overwhelmed. The fact that Gary Cahill replacing him actually significantly improved our defense speaks volumes about how awful he was. On Zouma. The injury came at a bad time. By the time he was 100 % again we had already moved into a direction where we needed CB's that could play out from the back. Zouma simply wasn't/isn't that kind of CB.  Miguelito 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said: Few shit games ? The guy went through a lenghty period where he was giving the ball away in dangerous areas nearly every game. Christensen only has himself to blame. He was making far too many mistakes. You can get away with a couple of mistakes but he just looked completely overwhelmed. The fact that Gary Cahill replacing him actually significantly improved our defense speaks volumes about how awful he was. On Zouma. The injury came at a bad time. By the time he was 100 % again we had already moved into a direction where we needed CB's that could play out from the back. Zouma simply wasn't/isn't that kind of CB.  Zouma was fit last year when we still had Conte. But we shipped him out on loan to Stoke where he went to play almost all games and did very well. Christensen deserved to be benched for a few games based on his performances, but he is young and it is expected to be inconsistent at that point. Therefore he should play to improve. I was criticising him alot in that period, but given he is young, he just has to play. We ended up 5th anyway, so we might aswell develop a few players along the road. Christensen played very well prior to barca game. But the way we handled situation after put alot of pressure on him. Someone like Klopp would handle it better. TAA had some horrible games down the road, but Klopp didnt put him under even more pressure. And if anyone who plays shit for few games was about to be benched at this club, Willian shouldnt be starter for 2 years and Alonso shouldnt be starter anymore either. Its clear there is some bias towards young players. Experienced ones can play shit and get away, young ones are axed and blamed for every mistake. When it should be the other way around since experienced players are supposed to take responsibility and young ones are only learning. What will happen with Pulisic if he doesnt perform from start? 3 bad games and he will be benched for half a year with Willian back in first 11? Johnnyeye and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: Zouma was fit last year when we still had Conte. But we shipped him out on loan to Stoke where he went to play almost all games and did very well. Christensen deserved to be benched for a few games based on his performances, but he is young and it is expected to be inconsistent at that point. Therefore he should play to improve. I was criticising him alot in that period, but given he is young, he just has to play. We ended up 5th anyway, so we might aswell develop a few players along the road. Christensen played very well prior to barca game. But the way we handled situation after put alot of pressure on him. Someone like Klopp would handle it better. TAA had some horrible games down the road, but Klopp didnt put him under even more pressure. And if anyone who plays shit for few games was about to be benched at this club, Willian shouldnt be starter for 2 years and Alonso shouldnt be starter anymore either. Its clear there is some bias towards young players. Experienced ones can play shit and get away, young ones are axed and blamed for every mistake. When it should be the other way around since experienced players are supposed to take responsibility and young ones are only learning. What will happen with Pulisic if he doesnt perform from start? 3 bad games and he will be benched for half a year with Willian back in first 11? It shouldn't really be factored in but the price of buying a player will have a significant impact on some of these decisions I believe. You mentioned Mendy at City in a previous post, but City paid about £50m for him. He was brought to be first choice and even coming back from injury was still deemed as the first choice player for them. Also Guardiola brought him and by the time he came back from injury Guardiola was still at City. Zouma was purchased for a much lower fee and played his way into the first team as opposed to being brought as first choice. He'd also not been playing for that long as first choice so he was hardly established in that position. Add to that we changed manager during that time who would have his own ideas and philosophy (and bearing in mind Conte's change to 3 at the back was a huge tactical shift away from Mourinho), it was always likely to be in Zouma's best interests to go out on loan and play his way back to full fitness under much less pressure. I think it was right to take Christensen out of the firing line at the end of last season and to be fair Cahill came in and actually played pretty well. Christensen is still very much part of the squad, he's hardly been frozen out but he's currently third choice and I would say for now rightfully so because he's not currently as good as Rudiger and Luiz. If he has the right character and mentality he'll see that Luiz won't be here forever (maybe not even beyond the season) and if he works hard and applies himself there could be an opening that he can take advantage of, like he did last season when Luiz fell out of favour with Conte. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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