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I don't think luis was a back up purchase. Imo, Iva's performances have really impressed Jose and that's why he's forced to stick with Azpi on the left. Maybe the initial plan was to play the Spaniard as a right back.

Has Ivanovic really impressed Mourinho or is Mourinho just being stubbornly loyal to him? He has made so many mistakes this season and yet still get to play every week. Other players have been kicked out of the team for less than that.

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I don't think luis was a back up purchase. Imo, Iva's performances have really impressed Jose and that's why he's forced to stick with Azpi on the left. Maybe the initial plan was to play the Spaniard as a right back.

I thought so too at the time, but Jose was saying that we signed Luis as an experienced back as early as September.

Anyway, like I said, the issue and the mistake was already done in the season before when Bertrand who was playing very well was not given a chance despite the lack of options in his position.

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I said it when we de-facto sold Betrand last summer and I'll say it again now: Giving up on such a solid young LB that's been part of your own academy and has proven to be nothing short of reliable in every game he's played (except the Shaktar one, obviously) was a huge "fuck you" to our youth setup. I'm glad Bertrand has fucked Mourinho over.

Yep. If this Bertrand couldnt make it I don't see any of the current kids making it either.

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I said it when we de-facto sold Betrand last summer and I'll say it again now: Giving up on such a solid young LB that's been part of your own academy and has proven to be nothing short of reliable in every game he's played (except the Shaktar one, obviously) was a huge "fuck you" to our youth setup. I'm glad Bertrand has fucked Mourinho over.

I'm very glad that Ryan has done so well. He's a great guy and top professional and deserves the best. I'm very happy for him. But I am NOT glad that the club made such a blunder and wasted such a top homegrown English talent. I don't see what that achieves exactly.

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I said it when we de-facto sold Betrand last summer and I'll say it again now: Giving up on such a solid young LB that's been part of your own academy and has proven to be nothing short of reliable in every game he's played (except the Shaktar one, obviously) was a huge "fuck you" to our youth setup. I'm glad Bertrand has fucked Mourinho over.

Bertrand and Azpilicueta are the same age, unless you are suggesting Mou choose the latter because he has an illogical hate for player's that came through academy.

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Bertrand and Azpilicueta are the same age, unless you are suggesting Mou choose the latter because he has an illogical hate for player's that came through academy.

No, Jose chose Azpi when Bertrand was clearly the most logical option because he had an illogical assessment of Bertrand's abilities which has proven to be wrong.

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No, Jose chose Azpi when Bertrand was clearly the most logical option because he had an illogical assessment of Bertrand's abilities which has proven to be wrong.

Is he tho? Azpi has been nothing short of brilliant LB from a defensive point of view, and I think his supposed lack of attacking game is more down to instructions/team set up than anything else, he has actually had his moment's when he has ventured forward, prime example being his involvement in Diego Costa's winner at Anfield.

In hindsight it would probably have been wiser to save the £16m and give Ryan the Felipe Luis role, but im yet to be convinced he is a better option than Azpi, also worth noting Ivanovic is slated a lot on here for letting crosses into the box but what went largely unnoticed is Bertrand was even more guilty of that.

Having said that if we sign Cresswell in the summer then it would have been pointless selling Bertrand unless he really didn't want to be back up.

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