Barbara 15,149 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 should be played, end of it.Cole is a liability defending and nearly useless attacking, so why are we playing him?And that's coming from someone who doesn't like Ryan, but Cole is terrible these days and he needs to be dropped ASAP!Mourinho's been insisting with a couple of guys he shouldn't. Cole is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 He is 24 and has made over 200 career appearances, he has got enough experience.Ofcourse he will patient, he won't be a starter at any other club on par with us. he will get 20-30 games a season, medals around his neck playing for Mourinho, charmed life. I don't think anyone can subjectively dispute that, but you can't deny either that Bertrand's performances this season have been better than all of Ash's (bar City, maybe). I'm not at all suggesting that this small sample is nearly enough to say that Ryan is better than Cole, but don't you think that it should be enough to give Ryan more chances especially that Ash is not exactly setting the world alight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I don't think anyone can subjectively dispute that, but you can't deny either that Bertrand's performances this season have been better than all of Ash's (bar City, maybe). I'm not at all suggesting that this small sample is nearly enough to say that Ryan is better than Cole, but don't you think that it should be enough to give Ryan more chances especially that Ash is not exactly setting the world alight?You are probably right in the point that he should play more, but players who are good enough to be squad players but no more tend to not replace any one regularly regardless of how they are performing. I would go further but im still half cut and will probably start mixing my words up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 You are probably right in the point that he should play more, but players who are good enough to be squad players but no more tend to not replace any one regularly regardless of how they are performing. I would go further but im still half cut and will probably start mixing my words up Well, considering the performances, maybe they should.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.bo 48 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe that Ryan hasnt got many games this season. A natural left sided player i cant remember when he has been given a chance that he has played so shit that he deserved time out! Ffs play Azpil at rb and Ryan at lb or left side of midfield,ps i see Lfc paper gossip might like him grrrrr better not happen... Mufassir08 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 is he still "injured"? suprising how he is always "injured"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Can't believe that Ryan hasnt got many games this season. A natural left sided player i cant remember when he has been given a chance that he has played so shit that he deserved time out! Ffs play Azpil at rb and Ryan at lb or left side of midfield,ps i see Lfc paper gossip might like him grrrrr better not happen...We won't sell to Liverpool (the Sturridge situation was different because he only had 6 months left on his contract). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 is he still alive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 he should leave... one of our best prospects and would easily be in the top 10 of LBs in the world imho if given a run, he has shown it plenty of time... but after joses comments he should just go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.bo 48 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Ffs i like Azpil but let him play Rb or right side of midfield !A.cole probly last season Ryan should be playing Lb or left side of midfield,another english talent better not leave ffs grrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Funny how the media always ask Mourinho why he isn't playing the likes of Mata, De Bruyne etc but then somebody like Bertrand or even Azpi before this weren't asked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviupastean 135 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Why is he not even mentioned by Mourinho when he talks of the left-back position? It's like we only have Ash & Azpi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 well Mou confirmed today that he has 2 left backs in Cole and Azpimust've been pleasant for Ryan hearing thathopefully he finds a good club in januari, he doesn't deserve this pile of shitethanks for that performance in Munich Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 well Mou confirmed today that he has 2 left backs in Cole and Azpimust've been pleasant for Ryan hearing thathopefully he finds a good club in januari, he doesn't deserve this pile of shitethanks for that performance in Munich RyanDidn't he say Ryan's injured and that he has two left-backs available? Not sure though, didn't watch the press conference and only read bits and pieces of it on Twitter.Anyway, not sure if I believe he's really injured. All these rumours of us going after Shaw in January with Bertrand allowed to leave makes this injury just a little bit too convenient to be believable IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 He'll go to Liverpool, where most of the rejected Chelsea players end up.Its funny how we have vitesse for our young talents and Liverpool for this criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Didn't he say Ryan's injured and that he has two left-backs available? Not sure though, didn't watch the press conference and only read bits and pieces of it on Twitter.Anyway, not sure if I believe he's really injured. All these rumours of us going after Shaw in January with Bertrand allowed to leave makes this injury just a little bit too convenient to be believable IMO...well Mou confirmed today that he has 2 left backs in Cole and Azpimust've been pleasant for Ryan hearing thathopefully he finds a good club in januari, he doesn't deserve this pile of shitethanks for that performance in Munich RyanRyan and Cahill are our two injured players atm. http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviupastean 135 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 i would have loved to have bertrand and shaw as our LB, when cole eventually retires/moves on. sadly, it looks like ryan isn't in mou's plans. Liquidator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I'm more worried that a first team player is injured and it took the club two weeks to announce it. Ryan and Cahill are our two injured players atm. http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.phpRyan wasn't on that list last week despite Jose saying that he has been injured for two weeks now. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddreamz 10 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 We'd gladly take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Could we use him as part of a swap deal for Shaw? Tbh I think he is good enough to stay, he hasn't looked out of place in the games he has played and this could be Cole's last season. I really doubt Cole would take a pay cut because we wont give a 34 year old £80 000 per week. I doubt Azpilicueta would be happy to play as a left back on a permanent basis either. Although I rate Shaw I wouldn't put him straight into the first 11 as first choice left back, but rotate him with Bertrand. Would be a real shame if we let him go. He hasn't often got a solid run of games in his natural position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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