Ricardo Rodriguez

[nyikolajevics 2,595]

I think we should go for Shaw, even if he's twice as expensive as Rodriguez. Sturridge and Turnbull left us, Moses and Ash will be gone, Lampard is likely to leave us too. Terry is not going to be younger and we're running out of homegrown players.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Not ridiculous just not likely. You're forgetting this is a club that bought 5 no.10's and Schurrle, Marin and Moses...

Again, if it came down to Shaw and Rodriguez I'd take Ricardo based on what I've seen. I've watched him against Bayern, Dortmund, Hamburg, Stuttgart and Leverkusen and in those games I can assure you he was right up there as one of the best players in the match... Not exaggerating AT ALL! He is that good...

DeBruyne is without a doubt good enough for the Premier league just not good enough for the way Chelsea want to play... much like how Mata wasn't, let's not go off the deep end.

If I told you that in every game I saw Rodriguez in he played exactly like this youtube video what would you say?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIHe9by9tFA

No, it's fucking ridiculous. It won't happen.

I've seen Rodriguez play and he's a good player. I've seen Shaw too and I've watched him progress at amazing pace. He will be a better player than Rodriguez in my view and he's got all those intangibles. You have your view, I have mine.

Fortunately it would appear the club agrees with me.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

No, it's fucking ridiculous. It won't happen.

I've seen Rodriguez play and he's a good player. I've seen Shaw too and I've watched him progress at amazing pace. He will be a better player than Rodriguez in my view and he's got all those intangibles. You have your view, I have mine.

Fortunately it would appear the club agrees with me.

I'm not so sure of that.

We have differing opinions obviously... I wouldn't be disappointed with Shaw.

[peter_amb 54]

I'm not so sure of that.

We have differing opinions obviously... I wouldn't be disappointed with Shaw.

We need homegrown players... Do you not understand? Cole and lampard are probably going to leave at the end of the season... Who do you expect us to buy to fill the quota?

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

We need homegrown players... Do you not understand? Cole and lampard are probably going to leave at the end of the season... Who do you expect us to buy to fill the quota?

Homegrown players don't have to be on the pitch... Do YOU not understand that? Bertrand is homegrown.

[peter_amb 54]

So you expect us to buy average English players to sit on the bench?

Rodriguez will be sold for £20m+. Wolfsburg isn't a club in financial trouble.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So you expect us to buy average English players to sit on the bench?

Rodriguez will be sold for £20m+. Wolfsburg isn't a club in financial trouble.

What are you talking about?

I expect us to buy talent that can play on a top 5 side in the world. I expect us to DEVELOP homegrown talent instead of overpaying for English potential.

[Shane 2,275]

If you're referring to me than a few things you need to consider.

I want Shaw just not for anything more than 18m. Anything more than that is overpayment. My opinion.

Homegrown is nice to have but its not essential, in the champions league it means more if he can actually play at that level for one of the top 5 teams in the world.

Enough with the feel good story about him loving Chelsea... If he can't play at this level what does it matter if he grew up a Chelsea fan?

The difference between our arguments are you want him at all costs, you believe he is ready to play at the highest level in europe. I believe he has potential but his true value isn't anywhere near 20m. I need more than him being a fan and English for him to be valued at 20M

Well if you need that then you obviously having watched much of him this season then mate. Shaw has been probably the best left back in the league this season, and at 18 its clear that he is a player who can fit right in and start away, and get better and better as his Chelsea career goes on.

About him being a fan? Its nice to know that he's one of us, and it gives me the thought in knowing that he'll give 110% no matter what. I'm not saying Rodriguez won't, but it'll always mean that bit more to Shaw, and he'll be very driven to improve his game. Another asset is that he speaks English, and he'll have JT along side him guiding him.

I'm convinced we're going to get Shaw and it will be an outstanding signing. He's been fantastic for Southampton this season and given every indication that he deserves to play at a higher level.

[peter_amb 54]

What are you talking about?

I expect us to buy talent that can play on a top 5 side in the world. I expect us to DEVELOP homegrown talent instead of overpaying for English potential.

When was the last time a homegrown player was developed by us who was consistently a squad player? Bertrand? In what, 10 years....

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Well if you need that then you obviously having watched much of him this season then mate. Shaw has been probably the best left back in the league this season, and at 18 its clear that he is a player who can fit right in and start away, and get better and better as his Chelsea career goes on.

About him being a fan? Its nice to know that he's one of us, and it gives me the thought in knowing that he'll give 110% no matter what. I'm not saying Rodriguez won't, but it'll always mean that bit more to Shaw, and he'll be very driven to improve his game. Another asset is that he speaks English, and he'll have JT along side him guiding him.

I'm convinced we're going to get Shaw and it will be an outstanding signing. He's been fantastic for Southampton this season and given every indication that he deserves to play at a higher level.

How many world class LB's are there in the EPL right now? just because he is arguably one of the better LB's doesn't make him a 20m+ player in my estimation. He is considered such because he is English first and has potential...

We may well go for Shaw, I'm not against it either. If its anywhere near 20m+ I will be though... He's got potential but his actual value isn't there.

Also I agree he can play at a higher level its what level that is that I'm debating, particularly for the money. He's good, just not World Class good in my humble opinion

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

When was the last time a homegrown player was developed by us who was consistently a squad player? Bertrand? In what, 10 years....

So what? Why is that important? who's to say Shaw will be good enough to play at that level anyway?

[peter_amb 54]

So what? Why is that important? who's to say Shaw will be good enough to play at that level anyway?

Because we need homegrown players and we're not developing anyone ourselves...

Same can be said for Rodriguez. How do we know he'll adapt to the English game? You seem to forget that he struggled a lot when he first joined wolfsburg.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Because we need homegrown players and we're not developing anyone ourselves...

Same can be said for Rodriguez. How do we know he'll adapt to the English game? You seem to forget that he struggled a lot when he first joined wolfsburg.

We need homegrown players, yes... Do we need them to play big minutes for us in high profile fixtures? No. The association rule doesn't mean they have to play x-amount of games it just means they are on the 23man roster, like Bertrand was at the beginning of the year.

I want the best players, I'm sympathetic to Shaw because he is homegrown and a supporter I just don't want him for 20M. As for Rodriguez I've watched him and he looks fan-fucking-tastic for Wolfsburg. He make never adjust to the Prem, Shaw may never adjust to the pressure of playing for Chelsea.. these are things we can never answer. All I know is if I'm gonna pay 20m for a LB right now its not gonna be on Shaw, it is WITHOUT A DOUBT gonna be Rodriguez.

[peter_amb 54]

We need homegrown players, yes... Do we need them to play big minutes for us in high profile fixtures? No. The association rule doesn't mean they have to play x-amount of games it just means they are on the 23man roster, like Bertrand was at the beginning of the year.

I want the best players, I'm sympathetic to Shaw because he is homegrown and a supporter I just don't want him for 20M. As for Rodriguez I've watched him and he looks fan-fucking-tastic for Wolfsburg. He make never adjust to the Prem, Shaw may never adjust to the pressure of playing for Chelsea.. these are things we can never answer. All I know is if I'm gonna pay 20m for a LB right now its not gonna be on Shaw, it is WITHOUT A DOUBT gonna be Rodriguez.

Well I'm glad your not Incharge of transfers and mourinho is. He recently said that an English core is important and he's looking to replace lampard, cole etc in the future

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Well I'm glad your not Incharge of transfers and mourinho is. He really said that an English core is important and he's looking to replace lampard, cole etc in the future

No I'm not in charge of transfers and I'm sure whatever Chelsea do will be whats best for the club. In my eyes paying 20m for an 18yr old LB is not in the best interest of the club, but then again I didn't think 50m for Torres was either...

[peter_amb 54]

No I'm not in charge of transfers and I'm sure whatever Chelsea do will be whats best for the club. In my eyes paying 20m for an 18yr old LB is not in the best interest of the club, but then again I didn't think 50m for Torres was either...

Respect your opinion, but you can see why the majority of Chelsea fans would want shaw, even if Rodriguez is better at this very moment.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Respect your opinion, but you can see why the majority of Chelsea fans would want shaw, even if Rodriguez is better at this very moment.

Absolutely! And I wouldn't mind him either at the right price.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

TBH I would be very happy with either of them.Both are top class young fullbacks and we'd be lucky to have either of them playing for us.