Nemanja Matic

[LondonPride1905 236]

We are literally buying him for 15-20 times what we sold him for 3 years ago. It's not an embarrassment, but it's a failure by the board to recognize his potential and a failure of our youth policies.

You never know , to be honest. He never was loaned out somewhere seriosly or really had any game time here. I am not saying its not a mistake, but Barcelona also thought that Pique and Fabregas wouldnt be that much of a success. Reus also is a product of Borussia's youth development, but was released , thought not to be good enough. He then joined a third division team and worked hard. Sometimes its just up to the players mentality to prove that he is better than people thought. That is my main reason to prefer him over Guarin.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Very much a Yaya-esque player, he'd be an absolute dream and would fix all our midfield issues. Don't care if we made a mistake in the past, please bring him to the Bridge

Doesn't have Yaya's stamina and isn't anywhere near as well rounded as him either. He's not Yaya esque at all IMO.

[lucio 5,418]

Doesn't have Yaya's stamina and isn't anywhere near as well rounded as him either. He's not Yaya esque at all IMO.

his stamina is still very good and is a better defender than toure

[The Skipper 20,609]

his stamina is still very good and is a better defender than toure

Completely disagree. Yaya Toure can play CB comfortably if needed, don't think i can say the same about Matic. Just because Toure doesn't play as a proper DM anymore does not mean Matic is suddenly better than him defensively.

Yaya is probably the most complete CM on the planet, Matic isn't in the same class at all.

[Polo7 3,496]

Completely disagree. Yaya Toure can play CB comfortably if needed, don't think i can say the same about Matic. Just because Toure doesn't play as a proper DM anymore does not mean Matic is suddenly better than him defensively.

Yaya is probably the most complete CM on the planet, Matic isn't in the same class at all.

No one can deny Tourse is great but I think you need to take his cock out of your mouth

[Special Juan 28,100]

No one can deny Tourse is great but I think you need to take his cock out of your mouth

Stop it please, no need for that, his point was as valid as yours.

[didierforever 7,349]

are people seriously comparing toure to matic.

[lucio 5,418]

Completely disagree. Yaya Toure can play CB comfortably if needed, don't think i can say the same about Matic. Just because Toure doesn't play as a proper DM anymore does not mean Matic is suddenly better than him defensively.

Yaya is probably the most complete CM on the planet, Matic isn't in the same class at all.

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Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini has leapt to the defence of Yaya Toure after criticism that the Ivory Coast powerhouse is a ‘defensive liability’.

Ex-City midfielder Dietmar Hamann claimed on Match of the Day that Toure, 30, was a major reason behind the club’s indifferent defensive record as he failed to track runners."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2533935/Manchester-City-boss-Manuel-Pellegrini-defends-liability-Yaya-Toure-criticism-Didi-Hamann.html#ixzz2pkXCKU9a

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[Polo7 3,496]

Stop it please, no need for that, his point was as valid as yours.

Was a joke? Havent been here long but people here really need to lighten up.

[Special Juan 28,100]

Was a joke? Havent been here long but people here really need to lighten up.

There is having a joke and using a smiley, and then there is what you said. Like you said, your new, reign it in would be my advice we are all here for good debate and CFC.

[Polo7 3,496]

There is having a joke and using a smiley, and then there is what you said. Like you said, your new, reign it in would be my advice we are all here for good debate and CFC.

I did use a smiley though, give me some credit.

[Rekin 835]

Isnt Matic the one who usually runs the most of the players on the pitch? Sounds to me like his stamina is one of his strengths if anything.

People are always so quick to compare players, often forgetting that so much is determined by the environment. The style of play of both the players own team and the opponents is very important, as are the team-mates and of course the players own role within the team.

Im not gonna pretend as if I were following every forum a few years ago (or today), but to use the example of Javi Martinez his value and opinion has inflated greatly after his first season in Bayern. Few people doubted that he was good before, but even fewer would call him one of the best DMs in the world. People are always experts on things in retrospect.

What do we know now? That we need a DM with the skills of Matic and that he is to some degree available, that is all I personally need to know to feel good about this transfer.
Are there better players for that position? Of course, but if they can't be attained now or in the summer (barring some really excessive spending) there is little need for obsessing about it.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

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Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini has leapt to the defence of Yaya Toure after criticism that the Ivory Coast powerhouse is a ‘defensive liability’.

Ex-City midfielder Dietmar Hamann claimed on Match of the Day that Toure, 30, was a major reason behind the club’s indifferent defensive record as he failed to track runners."

I think its absolutely true - Toure is a defensive liability for a long time for City. Im saying it forever - Yaya isnt a "complete CM" at all, he plays almost like an AM, he always leave Fernandinho alone dealing with the counter attacks, and thats why CIty are that bad defenfing those counter attacks. He's very lazy and heavy, and moves very slow when defending. There's this popular opinion that Yaya is a beast also in defense like in attack, an engine almost like Essien was, thats one of the biggest lies in football nowdays.

[The Skipper 20,609]

"

Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini has leapt to the defence of Yaya Toure after criticism that the Ivory Coast powerhouse is a defensive liability.

Ex-City midfielder Dietmar Hamann claimed on Match of the Day that Toure, 30, was a major reason behind the clubs indifferent defensive record as he failed to track runners."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2533935/Manchester-City-boss-Manuel-Pellegrini-defends-liability-Yaya-Toure-criticism-Didi-Hamann.html#ixzz2pkXCKU9a

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Because Didi Hamann said Toure is a defensive liability he is?

He clearly doesn't understand Toure's role in the team. Fernandinho is the one that sits most of the time while Toure is given the freedom to get forward. Obviously he's going to leave spaces behind him.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I think its absolutly true - Toure is a defensive liability for a long time for City. Im saying it forever - Yaya isnt a "complete CM" at all, he plays almost like a AM, he always leave Fernandinho alone dealing with the counter attacks, and thats why CIty are that bad defenfing those counter attacks. He's very lazy and heavy, moves very slow when defending. There's this popular opinion that Yaya is a beast also in defense, an engine almost like Essien was, thats one of the biggest lies in football nowdays.

It isn't something that's just been made up. Just go watch him play for Barcelona, where he had to be the most disciplined midfielder in the team; he did do well there.

He isn't playing as a DM at City anymore either, it's how City play, Fernandinho sits and Toure gets forward.