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You do realize our midfield was open wider than hooker's legs? Yeah Ramires did score and assist, but also left Matic alone xx times. His positioning was completely off every damn time Everton attacked. They controled tempo and possession etc. It was kind of game that happens once or twice a year, but Ramires was usual self. Sloppy most of time with moments of absolute brilliance.

I genuinely facepalmed when Ramires ruined that good counter attack in the second half by passing to nobody (think it was aimed at Cesc).

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I genuinely facepalmed when Ramires ruined that good counter attack in the second half by passing to nobody (think it was aimed at Cesc).

Yeah, a simple pass to the side (dunno who was there waiting to recieve it) would probably lead to 1 on 1 situation. BUT mr. Ramires passed in wrong direction (directly into their defender) and not just that, he also added so little power every damn player 20m away would catch it...And he had like all the time and space in the world to make that simple pass...

But thats Ramires. Worst technique player of team and then he bangs a rocket or pass that even Xavi wouldnt in 100 tries...I think he has all the ability to do that, just simply not enough composed/intelligent to pull them regulary.

Generaly I actualy like Ramires, he adds speed, power, pulls ace out of nowhere, hardworking, but for the benefit of the team to perform good constantly and not fuck up every second attack because of Ramires, I think he should be benched. While he is valuable in certain aspects, I just dont feel comfortable when he is in lineup, we just dont control things as we should. Without him, we are little short on pace in midfield though. But defending wise, you might think we would be stronger with Ramires than Oscar, but its opposite. Unless we park bus, Oscar gives much more to defence, while Ramires doesnt even know where to place himself when opposition gets the ball. He probably goes to buy a kebab meanwhile and then comes back.

Everyone talks about Pogba or Vidal, but personaly I would replace him (eventualy) with Schneiderlin. Most underrated CM/DM/B2B in the world, or at least in prem IMO.

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Yeah, a simple pass to the side (dunno who was there waiting to recieve it) would probably lead to 1 on 1 situation. BUT mr. Ramires passed in wrong direction (directly into their defender) and not just that, he also added so little power every damn player 20m away would catch it...And he had like all the time and space in the world to make that simple pass...

But thats Ramires. Worst technique player of team and then he bangs a rocket or pass that even Xavi wouldnt in 100 tries...I think he has all the ability to do that, just simply not enough composed/intelligent to pull them regulary.

Generaly I actualy like Ramires, he adds speed, power, pulls ace out of nowhere, hardworking, but for the benefit of the team to perform good constantly and not fuck up every second attack because of Ramires, I think he should be benched. While he is valuable in certain aspects, I just dont feel comfortable when he is in lineup, we just dont control things as we should. Without him, we are little short on pace in midfield though. But defending wise, you might think we would be stronger with Ramires than Oscar, but its opposite. Unless we park bus, Oscar gives much more to defence, while Ramires doesnt even know where to place himself when opposition gets the ball. He probably goes to buy a kebab meanwhile and then comes back.

Everyone talks about Pogba or Vidal, but personaly I would replace him (eventualy) with Schneiderlin. Most underrated CM/DM/B2B in the world, or at least in prem IMO.

Yep I'd like to see how the Oscar-Matic-Fabregas trio works in big games. While Oscar isn't as athletic as Ramires, he's much more intelligent off-the-ball and obviously better on the ball (who isn't?). No point having Ramires if all he does with his athleticism and stamina is run around like a headless chicken.

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Yep I'd like to see how the Oscar-Matic-Fabregas trio works in big games. While Oscar isn't as athletic as Ramires, he's much more intelligent off-the-ball and obviously better on the ball (who isn't?). No point having Ramires if all he does with his athleticism and stamina is run around like a headless chicken.

Unless we will completely dominate them, I dont see that work too great either, perhaps not enough speed and power right there, but who knows. Wish Oscar and Ramires was the same person...reckon this will be player that Mou will look after in next few seasons...

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Unless we will completely dominate them, I dont see that work too great either, perhaps not enough speed and power right there, but who knows. Wish Oscar and Ramires was the same person...reckon this will be player that Mou will look after in next few seasons...

I reckon we'll be in for Khedira next year given he's out of contract.

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"distributed the ball very well, therefore helpful to set up quick attacks, something which is again becoming a trademark of Chelsea's playing style."

Where are those bus memes now hey? :lol:

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I genuinely facepalmed when Ramires ruined that good counter attack in the second half by passing to nobody (think it was aimed at Cesc).

You do realize that rambo scored one and assisted 2 right.

As for the current theme of thw topic, the match was a one-off. Matic was as much tp be blamed as rambo and cesc for giving poor cover in the center and even hazard for giving NO cover to azpi.

We have been defensively set up without oscar starting in 3 matches- man city away, liverpool away and ATM away. In defensive organization, nothing beats those matches. All of them without oscar. I have no doubt that cesc and rambo would have got an earful from jose about their defensive contribution.

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You do realize that rambo scored one and assisted 2 right.

As for the current theme of thw topic, the match was a one-off. Matic was as much tp be blamed as rambo and cesc for giving poor cover in the center and even hazard for giving NO cover to azpi.

We have been defensively set up without oscar starting in 3 matches- man city away, liverpool away and ATM away. In defensive organization, nothing beats those matches. All of them without oscar. I have no doubt that cesc and rambo would have got an earful from jose about their defensive contribution.

One of Ramires' assist was to an offside Ivanovic and the other a simple pass to Matic. And just because we won the big matches without Oscar doesn't mean we wouldn't have won them with him or that he won't play any this season.

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One of Ramires' assist was to an offside Ivanovic and the other a simple pass to Matic. And just because we won the big matches without Oscar doesn't mean we wouldn't have won them with him or that he won't play any this season.

The move to the iva goal was started by a good cross field ball by rambo to costa if I am not mistaken. So what if iva was off? Has the score changed to 5-3?

I am not saying that we would not have won without oscar or that he won't play this season. Just saying that oscar is not as unique or as wanted defensively as they are making him out to be.

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I am not saying that we would not have won without oscar or that he won't play this season. Just saying that oscar is not as unique or as wanted defensively as they are making him out to be.

But last season we had Luiz in the midfield who was more than capable of holding his own. However if we play Cesc, which it seems Jose will, then Oscar becomes much more valuable as from what we've seen so far they complement each other very well. Whilst Ramires may be more important in the counter-attacking system against big teams because of his physical attributes, Oscar offers a lot more technically and tactically. I do think Jose will still opt for Ramires and Willian though.

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We would have won that game 10 nil had oscar played. Let's just get on our knees and pray his injury isn't serious otherwise our season will be derailed. we are not worthy :worship:

We probably would have lost or drawn the game had Oscar played.

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