Spike 12,049 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 All you said was I dont like Matic. That adds absolutely nothing to this thread. I wasnt mocking your opinion, I was mocking a complete waste of a post. And in turn your post added nothing to the thread. I wasn't trying to actively add to the thread, I simply walked in, stated my opinion and walked out. No fuss, no muss. I wasn't attacking anyone, I wasn't arguing with anyone, so I really I'm surprised anyone even bothered.Besides, no one can state my opinion so within itself my statement was unique in this thread. I swear you could read pages of pages of circular arguments that seem like they are breaking new ground but are in fact, just rehashing tired old facts and arguments with a new veneer. So many threads fall prey to this pitfall. Page upon page, it's the same arguments, the same retaliations, etc, etc.I'm not trying to be aggressive or anything, so please don't think I am. I agree with you wholeheartedly, but can you at least tell us why you don't rate Matic? I'm not having a go, I'm just curiousI'm not going to act like a Benfica or Matic know it all, but it simply comes down to the fact that I'm just not impressed. You know when you watch football and you just get that feeling? I don't think he is particularly bad, but I don't see what amazing features and new dynamics he brings to the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Lol Wtf was that post above? I don't like Matic, why?, I just don't lol<br /><br />Anyways I'm not going to judge Matic on just one game but he's looked decent. Big and strong, half mikel half Ramires. <br />He'd do OK in the prem because a few fouls called on him probably won't get called here<br />I am so desperate for a good midfielder I'll take anyone at this point, he's not world class but he's a def improment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Just to add to that entertainment value vs result debate, you know what gives me the most entertainment in football?Barca, Arsenal and Bayern fans and players complaining that we are anti-football right after they lose to us. What a pitiful bunch. They talk as if they invented football hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Can't watch the game as I'm at work but how's matic playing so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
José Mateus 46 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Can we buy the Porto DM too? Fernando, dude looks good.He doesn't fit a double pivot at all... Porto have suffered with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I'm not going to act like a Benfica or Matic know it all, but it simply comes down to the fact that I'm just not impressed. You know when you watch football and you just get that feeling? I don't think he is particularly bad, but I don't see what amazing features and new dynamics he brings to the team.Why does he have to bring anything "amazing" to the team? Not everyone is Hazard. He is strong, passing is quick and direct, and he is good in the air. He is pretty much better than Mikel in every single way. What more do you want in a CDM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 David Luiz is at the game! Just got interviewed by Benfica tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I don't like the fact that whenever i hear the name nemanja i think Vidic.So if he could change his first name that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 He's like Nigerian-NT-version of Mikel (which is pretty damn good albeit playing more advanced I wish we could buy that guy instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 He doesn't fit a double pivot at all... Porto have suffered with thatDo you think he is coming here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I wish we could buy that guy instead.just have matic hold and let mikel go forward more with ramires in a 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Why does he have to bring anything "amazing" to the team? Not everyone is Hazard. He is strong, passing is quick and direct, and he is good in the air. He is pretty much better than Mikel in every single way. What more do you want in a CDM?Not everyone has to be Hazard. Hazard has nothing to do with this discussion. I want mobility. From what I see Matic lacks it. I know Ramires is very mobile but that is no reason why other CMs can lack it. Matic from what I can see has the same problems as Mikel being that they both lack mobility. Matic works a lot harder than the lazy Mikel but as of right now, I'm not completely sold.Players like Yohan Cabaye, Joao Moutinho, and Illkay Gundogan are my type of midfielder. But to each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Do you think he is coming here?IF he gets injured today I'm SURE we will sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not everyone has to be Hazard. Hazard has nothing to do with this discussion. I want mobility. From what I see Matic lacks it. I know Ramires is very mobile but that is no reason why other CMs can lack it. Matic from what I can see has the same problems as Mikel being that they both lack mobility. Matic works a lot harder than the lazy Mikel but as of right now, I'm not completely sold.Players like Yohan Cabaye, Joao Moutinho, and Illkay Gundogan are my type of midfielder. But to each their own.but Matic doesn't lack mobility. He's pretty damn athletic for someone his size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I think all you who dont think Chelsea do not play entertaining football are listening a bit too much to jealous fans of other clubs and the bias press . We are playing great football and wait untill we get a centre forward in , I am being entertained and am fully behind Mourinho and the way he is developing us ,next season we will be the finished article ,Matic for Mikel would also be a massive step forward in the entertaining stakes,but lets not forget it is all about winning. Mourinho is developing a very entertaining team as we speak . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 but Matic doesn't lack mobility. He's pretty damn athletic for someone his sizeDoes he? As I said, I'm no professor Matic, I've only seen him play a few times. I'll take your word for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Not everyone has to be Hazard. Hazard has nothing to do with this discussion. I want mobility. From what I see Matic lacks it. I know Ramires is very mobile but that is no reason why other CMs can lack it. Matic from what I can see has the same problems as Mikel being that they both lack mobility. Matic works a lot harder than the lazy Mikel but as of right now, I'm not completely sold.Players like Yohan Cabaye, Joao Moutinho, and Illkay Gundogan are my type of midfielder. But to each their own.I dont think he lacks mobility at all, you should watch him some more. The problem with the players listed is that they wont provide enough defensively as Matic would. Playing Ramires and Gundogan I could see us getting ripped apart from a counter attack. We have enough creativity I believe, we need someone in midfield who can find one of the 3 quickly and directly. Thats what we lack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Does he? As I said, I'm no professor Matic, I've only seen him play a few times. I'll take your word for it.He's certainly nowhere close to Ramires in terms of speed, but for a holding midfielder, I don't think it's a problem. One advantage he has in short distance is his long strides. He can cover a lot of ground because he's strong, works hard and is long. And like Yaya Toure, he's deceptively fast over long distance. Yaya's faster than him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 These antics remind me so much of Barca vs. Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 When he was with us ,,he reminded me of a young Ballack ..I never wanted us to let him go ,, Will welcome him back ..pity we wasted about 18 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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