Title Run In

[Barbara 15,149]

How can someone say it's our title to lose if not even an 100% form would guarantee us the title???

Personally, when I say our title to lose, I mean that we have more chances than them, not that we depend only on our won. Ofc we don't depend on our results alone to win, but if City draws one single match, neither do they. Unless it's a situation like Bayern in Germany now and PSG in France, where they're several points ahead of runner-ups, whoever wants to be champion won't depend entirely on themselves and then we'll have to work with the odds of their rivals dropping points. We will drop points, but so will City and with three piled up fixtures and some challenges of their own coming with difficult matches, I think chances are they'll drop more points than us - and that's not even considering the pressure factor, just mathematically speaking. The moment you leave three matches behind you with three wins, mathematically you won the odds there. They're still to beat the odds, they can win, lose or draw any of those three matches by definition. It's statistical... That's why our winning % is higher than theirs, because they're yet to beat the odds.

I still believe it's nearly impossible to catch up a 12 difference in GD because if it comes down to GD it means City is also winning matches and making their GD bigger. We'd have to outscore them by basically 2 every match they win and given our trustworthy clinical finishing I don't see that happening at all.

Now analyzing things less coldly, leaving the numbers and math aside a bit - in the subjective side of things, they have a lot of pressure on their shoulders. They have to catch up nine points, end of the story. If they drop even one point, they know they'll have to make sure they don't drop more and they'll have to pray for us to drop. One of their rescheduled matches is the derby of Manchester. No matter how toothless United is with their Chief Clown in Command, it's still a derby - away nonetheless.

That's why I say it's our title to lose. Not that we depend only on us. In theory City depend only on them, after all, they only have to make sure we don't outscore them. But what if hypothetically we win 8-0 against Villa next week, then what? Or 7-0 against Norwich? Are those unlikely to happen? Ofc they are, as much as City winning 100% of their 12 matches. I don't mean if we lose the title it's on our own incompetency of winning our next fixtures. I'm just using odds against City. They will drop points and I think oddly speaking the probability of them dropping more than us is bigger, as mathematically speaking they have more matches to play than us.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Personally, when I say our title to lose, I mean that we have more chances than them, not that we depend only on our won. Ofc we don't depend on our results alone to win, but if City draws one single match, neither do they. Unless it's a situation like Bayern in Germany now and PSG in France, where they're several points ahead of runner-ups, whoever wants to be champion won't depend entirely on themselves and then we'll have to work with the odds of their rivals dropping points. We will drop points, but so will City and with three piled up fixtures and some challenges of their own coming with difficult matches, I think chances are they'll drop more points than us - and that's not even considering the pressure factor, just mathematically speaking. The moment you leave three matches behind you with three wins, mathematically you won the odds there. They're still to beat the odds, they can win, lose or draw any of those three matches by definition. It's statistical... That's why our winning % is higher than theirs, because they're yet to beat the odds.

I still believe it's nearly impossible to catch up a 12 difference in GD because if it comes down to GD it means City is also winning matches and making their GD bigger. We'd have to outscore them by basically 2 every match they win and given our trustworthy clinical finishing I don't see that happening at all.

Now analyzing things less coldly, leaving the numbers and math aside a bit - in the subjective side of things, they have a lot of pressure on their shoulders. They have to catch up nine points, end of the story. If they drop even one point, they know they'll have to make sure they don't drop more and they'll have to pray for us to drop. One of their rescheduled matches is the derby of Manchester. No matter how toothless United is with their Chief Clown in Command, it's still a derby - away nonetheless.

That's why I say it's our title to lose. Not that we depend only on us. In theory City depend only on them, after all, they only have to make sure we don't outscore them. But what if hypothetically we win 8-0 against Villa next week, then what? Or 7-0 against Norwich? Are those unlikely to happen? Ofc they are, as much as City winning 100% of their 12 matches. I don't mean if we lose the title it's on our own incompetency of winning our next fixtures. I'm just using odds against City. They will drop points and I think oddly speaking the probability of them dropping more than us is bigger, as mathematically speaking they have more matches to play than us.

Barbara, saying it's our title to lose and saying we are the favorites are two different things.

You dont need to make a case for us winning the league because I was the very first member on this bandwagon. Even before the season started I was already saying we could realistically win the title this season. I was also one of the few predicting we would win against City at the Etihad!

However, it cant be our title to lose because we arent even ahead of City (mathematically speaking). When somebody says its Chelsea's title to lose, it means that only a huge upset would prevent us from winning. And that is simply not the case. City winning the title wouldnt be an upset at all. Actually many journalists and professionals believe City winning would just be the normal!

Sorry, but it is simply wrong to say it's our title to lose when we dont even depend solely on our efforts!

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Well, looks like i am the only one who can actually see us winning the title and only dropping points in Anfield and winning the rest of the matches. 9 games to play, 8 wins, 1 draw/loss.

I'll bite your hand off if you offered me 7 wins and draws to lpool and arsenal.

[bluesman2610 1,415]

Speaking of City pile up of games some of their in hand games have already been rescheduled dates are really close Fulham 22/03 ManU 25/03 Arsenal 29/03

After what I seen today from City vs Wigan I can see them going 1W 1D 1L in this stretch

[Barbara 15,149]

Barbara, saying it's our title to lose and saying we are the favorites are two different things.

You dont need to make a case for us winning the league because I was the very first member on this bandwagon. Even before the season started I was already saying we could realistically win the title this season. I was also one of the few predicting we would win against City at the Etihad!

However, it cant be our title to lose because we arent even ahead of City (mathematically speaking). When somebody says its Chelsea's title to lose, it means that only a huge upset would prevent us from winning. And that is simply not the case. City winning the title wouldnt be an upset at all. Actually many journalists and professionals believe City winning would just be the normal!

Sorry, but it is simply wrong to say it's our title to lose when we dont even depend solely on our efforts!

I stand corrected by the semantics of it then.

I think the title has our name on it. That we're likely to win. I've seen that expression being used in tennis matches a lot of times before the matches. I thought people used it loosely in football too. When there's a #1 or #2 of the world playing a GS final against number #40 American tennis commentators often say it's the top guy title to lose.

Also I'm not making any case... nor stealing anyone's thunder. That's my take on this. We're likely to win. Two weeks ago I said 50/50 two weeks prior to that I said City had the edge. Now I think we do.

[haranr 485]

We just have to keep on believing in our team and NEVER be arrogant.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

We need Mata to help his average team mates beat City.

IF Mata delivers that telling blow he will have officially earned his winners medal

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

We're favourites for this one only if Demichelis performs week-in, week-out. Other than that is theirs to lose.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

IF Mata delivers that telling blow he will have officially earned his winners medal

No just No! There is nothing he can do to deserve a PL Winners medal this season!

[haranr 485]

No just No! There is nothing he can do to deserve a PL Winners medal this season!

Why the hell people are still thinking it's possible for him to get a winner's medal. Once you leave a team that won the league it doesn't matter how many matches you've played you are not getting that medal.

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[The Skipper 20,609]

Why the hell people are still thinking it's possible for him to get a winner's medal. Once you leave a team that won the league it doesn't matter how many matches you've played you are not getting that medal.

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C.13 The League Champions shall further receive 40 commemorative medals to be presented by the Club to its Manager and to such of its Players and Officials as it thinks fit provided that any Player who has entered the field of play in a minimum of 5 of its League Matches that Season shall receive from the Club a commemorative medal. Additional medals may only be presented with the consent of the Board which shall only be given if the total number of Players who have entered the field of play that Season in a minimum of 5 of the Club’s League Matches exceeds 39.

From the PL handbook.

So if we want to, we can give Mata a medal.

Suarez had an Eredivisie medal from Ajax despite leaving in January to Liverpool.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Why the hell people are still thinking it's possible for him to get a winner's medal. Once you leave a team that won the league it doesn't matter how many matches you've played you are not getting that medal.

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Mata can apply for a medal according to the FA rules!

I dont think he will, Mata is too classy to do that. However, people are only discussing it because he can...