OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Totally agree with The Skipper. Eto'o has won much much much more, and all over the world in different leagues. Torres perhaps internationally but hes only won the 3 trophies here at club level I thinkk. Take away Torre's international achievements, bar the Euro 2008 where he played a key role and the 3 trophies he's won at Chelsea which he didn't do much in, hes won 1 trophy... although teams win titles not individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Eto'o has had the better career and is a much better player than Torres, even now at 32 and having spent 2 years in Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 What? So you think that Torres has had a better career than Eto'o? Torres only had 1, maybe 2 really good seasons. You can't compare that to Eto'o's career at all. Let me remind you of Samuel's club achievements:3 Champions League titles: 2006 (in which he was MOTM), 2009, 20103 La Liga titles; 2005, 2006 (top scorer), 20091 Serie A title: 20102 Copa del Rey titles: 2003, 20092 Coppa Italia titles: 2010, 20112 Spanish Supercup titles: 2006, 20071 Italian Supercup title: 2011How anyone could say Eto'o, whom many regard as one of it not the greatest African player ever hasn't had a better career than Torres is really beyond me. Eto'o has definitely had the better career by far.I strongly disagree mate. Torres has better stats IMO.CLFAEuropaEuro 08, 12Confed Runner up, third placeand under 21 trophiesHis individual honors are miles ahead of that of Eto'o's.Top scorer and winner at both under 16 and under 19 European championships.PFA Player of the year: twiceNumerous PoM awards.MOTM Euro 08 final with that winning goal.Made the team of the tournament at Euro, PL, FIFPro XI, Confed Cup.Golden boot at World Cup,EuroSilver shoe at ConfedHe is one of the most decorated footballers of all time.And you think Eto'o's better than Drogs..Hilarious. He is the greatest African footballer ever.Don't tell me stats doesn't matter after you laid that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 and here I thought math was an exact science where for example 3 is more than 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDRECHO 432 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 who cares if torres is better than Etoo or Etoo better than Torres , the most important is how many goals o shoot on target have in the present . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 And you think Eto'o's better than Drogs..Hilarious. He is the greatest African footballer ever.Roger Milla and George Weah were better than both of them, so you're both wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I strongly disagree mate. Torres has better stats IMO.CLFAEuropaEuro 08, 12Confed Runner up, third placeand under 21 trophiesHis individual honors are miles ahead of that of Eto'o's.Top scorer and winner at both under 16 and under 19 European championships.PFA Player of the year: twiceNumerous PoM awards.MOTM Euro 08 final with that winning goal.Made the team of the tournament at Euro, PL, FIFPro XI, Confed Cup.Golden boot at World Cup,EuroSilver shoe at ConfedHe is one of the most decorated footballers of all time.And you think Eto'o's better than Drogs..Hilarious. He is the greatest African footballer ever.Don't tell me stats doesn't matter after you laid that out.Eto'o's achievements with his teams blows Torres' out of the water but that doesn't matter - you were saying Torres had a better career when he clearly didn't, and that was the only reason I posted his achievements. Not because I wanted to, but simply because your argument that Torres had a more decorated career is obviously flawed. The achievements don't lie.You telling me Eto'o isn't one of the most decorated football players of all time either?The African Player Of The Year award, which pits Eto'o and Drogba against each other - has Eto'o winning it the most times in history - he's actually number 1 on the list of most awards won. So it really isn't "hilarious" for anyone to say Eto'o is the greatest African player ever.But whatever, I think it's best we just leave it here because the argument is obviously going off topic. Roger Milla and George Weah were better than both of them, so you're both wrong.I didn't say I think Eto'o is the best African footballer of all time - all I said is that many people think so. It isn't my personal opinion. Regardless, both are certainly worthy to be mentioned in the same breath as Abedi Pele, Milla and George Weah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polo 18 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I prefer Torres right now Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 He's playing well but at the same time having a disaster.Once again it's just not working for our strikers is it? Plays well all game and then doesn't mark his man.What I would give to have Didier back in his prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted September 18, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted September 18, 2013 He's getting zero service. The problem has been going on for too long for people to keep blaming the striker.This team doesn't create anywhere near the amount of chances it should. Sucks because they'll still get the majority of the blame because of the overhyped players behind them. Doesn't do a world of confidence for a striker when the one chance they get is the only one they'll receive for the entire game or even worse. Kojo, LeChuck, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Eto'o's achievements with his teams blows Torres' out of the water but that doesn't matter - you were saying Torres had a better career when he clearly didn't, and that was the only reason I posted his achievements. Not because I wanted to, but simply because your argument that Torres had a more decorated career is obviously flawed. The achievements don't lie.You telling me Eto'o isn't one of the most decorated football players of all time either?The African Player Of The Year award, which pits Eto'o and Drogba against each other - has Eto'o winning it the most times in history - he's actually number 1 on the list of most awards won. So it really isn't "hilarious" for anyone to say Eto'o is the greatest African player ever.But whatever, I think it's best we just leave it here because the argument is obviously going off topic. I didn't say I think Eto'o is the best African footballer of all time - all I said is that many people think so. It isn't my personal opinion. Regardless, both are certainly worthy to be mentioned in the same breath as Abedi Pele, Milla and George Weah. Watever mate. Anyways it sucks to lose against Basel.Not that i'm blaming anyone, but don't think Torres would have made any difference either. Depressing result now that all other big guns won in great fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 He's getting zero service. The problem has been going on for too long for people to keep blaming the striker.This team doesn't create anywhere near the amount of chances it should. Sucks because they'll still get the majority of the blame because of the overhyped players behind them. Doesn't do a world of confidence for a striker when the one chance they get is the only one they'll receive for the entire game or even worse.Jesus christ when I seen you post I expected it to be some hateful message towards Eto'o.However you are spot on, it's far too much of a coincidence, I didn't want the Eto'o transfer in the first place because I don't think he can fit into the team. We need a deep lying forward, I don't think we can play with a poacher because we don't give a poacher enough space, we seem to just all bombared up front so a poacher would be really pointless.If you seen Eto'os movement you would've noticed he had to stand on the edge of the box, that's what people have been moaning at Torres for, and that's been going on for over a season, wow what a coincidence. We aren't as direct as we used to be, we like to take the game to them and no poacher is going to come here and play well.We don't need a world class striker, we just need a good striker who can work hard and can link up with the play, also a preferable physical striker. Just like Bayern (who are known as the best team in the world currently) have Mandazukic as there first team forward. Sidzeret and Gilvorak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Watever mate. Anyways it sucks to lose against Basel.Not that i'm blaming anyone, but don't think Torres would have made any difference either. Depressing result now that all other big guns won in great fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Tories is better right now...atleast wins headers...etoo was just standing near the post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Defend the cross or don't even fucking come back to our box. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic 2 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Roger Milla and George Weah were better than both of them, so you're both wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Jesus christ when I seen you post I expected it to be some hateful message towards Eto'o.However you are spot on, it's far too much of a coincidence, I didn't want the Eto'o transfer in the first place because I don't think he can fit into the team. We need a deep lying forward, I don't think we can play with a poacher because we don't give a poacher enough space, we seem to just all bombared up front so a poacher would be really pointless.If you seen Eto'os movement you would've noticed he had to stand on the edge of the box, that's what people have been moaning at Torres for, and that's been going on for over a season, wow what a coincidence. We aren't as direct as we used to be, we like to take the game to them and no poacher is going to come here and play well.We don't need a world class striker, we just need a good striker who can work hard and can link up with the play, also a preferable physical striker. Just like Bayern (who are known as the best team in the world currently) have Mandazukic as there first team forward.I'm not sure Eto'o is really a poacher anymore, he's being deployed as a deep lying forward here - regardless, we could do with a more physical type, like a Giroud or Mandzukic like you said - there seems to be no focal point in the team at the moment, we're just faffing the ball about. But you're right, someone like the two aforementioned would maybe be the striker we need.I actually think Lewandowski is the perfect striker for us at the moment. His availability is questionable though. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I gave him the benefit of the doubt first game but he was again terrible today, he never looked like scoring. Was very worrying. We have no strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 I'm not sure Eto'o is really a poacher anymore, he's being deployed as a deep lying forward here - regardless, we could do with a more physical type, like a Giroud or Mandzukic like you said - there seems to be no focal point in the team at the moment, we're just faffing the ball about. But you're right, someone like the two aforementioned would maybe be the striker we need.I actually think Lewandowski is the perfect striker for us at the moment. His availability is questionable though.Well take my word for it but I didn't necessarily mean Eto'o is a poacher, i was just making a point. I'm just really that lazy and I've made such large posts today I couldn't be bothered making another huge one to explain.Lewandowski is someone I've always wanted, Cavani is someone who would do well because of his anticipation and link up play, he's also a work horse, Lewandowski can be similar except he's not such a hard worker, he's a better footballer but just like Cavani he would put his life on the line to score a goal.I don't think we necessarily need a 40 millions worth striker though, that's my point. I would just bring in someone who can play the suitable deep lying forward role. Stats, Barbara and The Skipper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Eto'o as expected, provides good movement and link up play. It makes things easier for the 3 behind him.BUT, today he couldn't prove that he could be the solution for our striking problems. And, at 32 his reactions seem a bit off.Can't believe this, but I honestly think Jose should go back to putting Torres in the starting line-up. He's better suited to the counter-attacking play, and imo...we looked more of a threat when he led the line in the couple of games he started this season. Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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