kobematabryant 400 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I understand Willian is a quality but why the fuck do we need this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Whats the difference of CDM and DM? Not much difference. Just stating for the sake of it. Willian played left side against us for Shaktar and was ghosting all over the pitch that night, centre, right and left it didn't matter because players of that quality can do it. Whilst he maybe set to those positions don't rub out and erase positions just because he may not of played in it, top players can adapt especially under the guidance of Jose.Seriously?! That's like saying Cech can play as a ST because he is a top player and can adapt to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 just one thing I keep reading in the forum - and I chose this thread to post about it randomly I guess - is that you guys insist on having the likes of Oscar and Kevin in the double pivot - some of which even suggests BOTH at the same time with tons of CAMs ahead of them such as Schurrle, Mata, Hazard, and now Willian.Do you really expect the likes of Oscar and Kevin to stop ManCity's midfield? Or Spurs'? Or even Arsenal's? And that's only in England - not to count Europe.I mean it makes no sense whatsoever! We'd be so exposed to opposition that it isn't even funny! Now even Willian is in the contest of who should play our DM. I think that's some craziness.You are suggesting Lampard is doing a better job than Oscar in defense? Lampard barley contribute in defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobematabryant 400 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 We should sign Erick Lamela, who is yet another Spurs target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Not much difference. Just stating for the sake of it. Seriously?! That's like saying Cech can play as a ST because he is a top player and can adapt to it. Now your just being silly aren't you....read what you have just posted again and then tune in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Mmm honestly can't see Moses leaving as he helps with the English contingent rules for Europe. Actually nervous that Mata could be about to leave. Makes sense, he isn't your typical Mourinho player, not quick or powerful and lacks discipline defensively.In Jose I trust I guess.... but this could be a disaster if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 You are suggesting Lampard is doing a better job than Oscar in defense? Lampard barley contribute in defense.I'm suggesting we have real DM's in the position, not CAM that although have good pass and can put an effort defending won't be able to defend 90 minutes in a competitive way. That's for when your squad is small, your DM's are injured and you have to improvise. It makes no sense to have a formation that isOscar - KevinSchurrle - Mata - HazardSTNO SENSE. We'll concede goals right and left and still many think this is the ideal. Good thing we'll never see such rubbish with Mourinho management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoro 151 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm suggesting we have real DM's in the position, not CAM that although have good pass and can put an effort defending won't be able to defend 90 minutes in a competitive way. That's for when your squad is small, your DM's are injured and you have to improvise. It makes no sense to have a formation that isOscar - KevinSchurrle - Mata - HazardSTNO SENSE. We'll concede goals right and left and still many think this is the ideal. Good thing we'll never see such rubbish with Mourinho management.Wouldnt Oscar and Ramires make more sense. No one in their right mind would suggest Oscar and KdB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Now your just being silly aren't you....read what you have just posted again and then tune in.Pot calling the kettle black...If players can adapt to new positions so easily out of the blue like you are making it out to be, then why do we even bother buying another ST? Let's just start turning all of our current players to a ST, MF and DF and we would then have players for all positions without having to worry about any problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Just the thought of Mata playing one of his signature picture perfect passes through to RvP makes me cringe. Yes, if we got Rooney it would improve us, but it'll also improve them. If giving them Mata is the only way to Rooney I'd pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Maybe Jose could see Willian sitting in the pivot.yeah and maybe he puts up Ivanovic as a striker. i mean in pro evolution soccer a player can learn a new position within a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berke 58 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think Levy is being uptight as usual. Now that Willian is in London the ball is in his court and he is trying to negotiate a lower price with Anzi. Anzi probably aren't having it, so the agent has probably been told to inflict pressure on Spurs so that they cough up. I wouldn't be too worried about this going through. But hey I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm suggesting we have real DM's in the position, not CAM that although have good pass and can put an effort defending won't be able to defend 90 minutes in a competitive way. That's for when your squad is small, your DM's are injured and you have to improvise. It makes no sense to have a formation that isOscar - KevinSchurrle - Mata - HazardSTNO SENSE. We'll concede goals right and left and still many think this is the ideal. Good thing we'll never see such rubbish with Mourinho management.No one's suggesting an Oscar-KDB pivot, that would be crazy, we are thinking about a Ramires-Oscar/KDB pivot. Lampard isnt a DM, and to be honest i dont think he's better defender than Oscar, so i dont get your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Wouldnt Oscar and Ramires make more sense. No one in their right mind would suggest Oscar and KdB. go read the posts here or in the match against ManU and you'll find it. But Mourinho is going to be dead before that happens. There's also the version that is Oscar + WillianI don't think it's a case of Oscar playing there at all. It's one thing to have a great work rate and another thing to really be effective defending against strong midfields. But I hope Mourinho does that once... only once, he won't need to do twice.No one's suggesting an Oscar-KDB pivot, that would be crazy, we are thinking about a Ramires-Oscar/KDB pivot. Lampard isnt a DM, and to be honest i dont think he's better defender than Oscar, so i dont get your point.dude, if you didn't say it, then okay. I never quoted your post and said you suggested it, did I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berke 58 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Mmm honestly can't see Moses leaving as he helps with the English contingent rules for Europe.Actually nervous that Mata could be about to leave. Makes sense, he isn't your typical Mourinho player, not quick or powerful and lacks discipline defensively.In Jose I trust I guess.... but this could be a disaster if true.Ozil isn't quick or powerful but assisted almost 100 goals in 3 seasons under Mou at Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berke 58 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Oh and Lampard is fucking woeful in defence. Infuriates me when players skip past him with relative ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Mmm honestly can't see Moses leaving as he helps with the English contingent rules for Europe.Actually nervous that Mata could be about to leave. Makes sense, he isn't your typical Mourinho player, not quick or powerful and lacks discipline defensively.In Jose I trust I guess.... but this could be a disaster if true.How does that work given that he's capped by Nigeria? Is it because he's always played in England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 yeah and maybe he puts up Ivanovic as a striker. i mean in pro evolution soccer a player can learn a new position within a year.The fact you play pro evolution says it all to me.But I didn't think you would get it, it involves thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Sky bet have just gained more money in the last hour than an African aid charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 All of a sudden we are bidding for a place that we are abundant in awesomeness.Jackson Martinez as an alternative to Rooney is way better.Arsenal, where the fuck are you? Make a 30,000,001 bid NOW and make yourself useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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