Strike 7,492 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Chelsea have a problem of plenty when it comes to playmakers. Last season, Juan Mata played the role for the bulk of the season and did a brilliant job of it - 17 goals and 22 assists only enhancing the argument for him. But Chelsea also have Brazil's #10 Oscar and the returning Kevin de Bruyne in the squad, not to mention Eden Hazard. Each of them brings a slightly different skill-set, so who do you think should be Chelsea's playmaker this season? and more importantly Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 We don't have to play with just one. I'd imagine we'll play with Mata as behind the striker, and another one, either on the wing of as a deep lying playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata mostly, but against teams like mancity where we need to be tight in the middle, oscar should play there to mark out opposition playmaker like he did for pirlo, arteta and dembele earlier last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I hate it when terms from other sports are used in football. What exactly do you mean by play maker? We have a hand full of players that can create chances and "make play": Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Lampard, KDB..etc and they can all be part of the team and create play. Why should we choose one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I hate it when terms from other sports are used in football. What exactly do you mean by play maker? We have a hand full of players that can create chances and "make play": Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Lampard, KDB..etc and they can all be part of the team and create play. Why should we choose one? In flemish we call a 10 a playmaker, Nour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 In flemish we call a 10 a playmaker, Nour.Well to my understanding, that is different. For me, the number 10 is a position on the pitch, while a play maker is a role and an ability of the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 In flemish we call a 10 a playmaker, Nour. Well to my understanding, that is different. For me, the number 10 is a position on the pitch, while a play maker is a role and an ability of the player. Quite correct actually. Playmaker is a role. One mstly given to a 10 - so some people mix them up. As long as we don't have a point guard i'm fine with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Quite correct actually. Playmaker is a role. One mstly given to a 10 - so some people mix them up. As long as we don't have a point guard i'm fine with that I just hope that Torres isn't our shooting guard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I hate it when terms from other sports are used in football. What exactly do you mean by play maker? We have a hand full of players that can create chances and "make play": Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Luiz, Lampard, KDB..etc and they can all be part of the team and create play. Why should we choose one? Centre Attacking Mid or CM, Last year Oscar and Eden Hazard were played on the wings. There are a lot of people posting here that they will do better at CAM or in central role.Playmaker may not be the term to clearly express what i wanted to say as you can have playmakers at different positions/levels. i meant operating centrally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Centre Attacking Mid or CM, Last year Oscar and Eden Hazard were played on the wings. There are a lot of people posting here that they will do better at CAM or in central role.Playmaker may not be the term to clearly express what i wanted to say as you can have playmakers at different positions/levels. i meant operating centrallyEven though Eden and Oscar often played on the wing both often played the role of the play maker. I don't worry much about who will play centrally on paper because on the pitch the 3 attacking midfielders will often rotate unless the manager asks them to stick to their positions. If I have to chose one to start centrally it would be Mata simply because he was by far our best player last season playing in that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Even though Eden and Oscar often played on the wing both often played the role of the play maker. I don't worry much about who will play centrally on paper because on the pitch the 3 attacking midfielders will often rotate unless the manager asks them to stick to their positions. If I have to chose one to start centrally it would be Mata simply because he was by far our best player last season playing in that position. doesn't happen as often as you think. sure there will be swapping and such but if you look at last season, generally, it was Oscar and hazard on the wings and Mata in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Better having too many of them, than not having them at all like we did all those years before Mata and the rest came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata. If anyone wants it over him then they better be play extremely well. But as of right now, no one else should play there. Especially when Hazard is brilliant on the wing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 doesn't happen as often as you think. sure there will be swapping and such but if you look at last season, generally, it was Oscar and hazard on the wings and Mata in the middle. That's because Rafa switched to 4-4-1-1 with Mata playing more as a second striker. They did not switch that often because Juan was playing ahead of them. But if you remember under Robbie, they were swapping all the time and it was hard to tell who was playing where. If Jose intends to play a classical 4-2-3-1 (which I doubt) they will most likely be exchanging positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mata, the magician any time....he is our player of the year...eventhough hazard can be good at central but mata is so good in creativity...At the end it doesnt matter because attacking mids often rotate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Oscar simply because he is the least versatile of them all.Either oscar starts in the middle or he stays on the bench because he is not very effective out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I know it is too premature to decide from one preseason game....but without mata we lack penetration...At the moment mata is clearly better than others in #10 role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Kevin de Bruyne's passing is as good as Mata's. But he's versatile, so I think de Bruyne will spend more time on the flanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Can there be an option for all 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Kevin de Bruyne's passing is as good as Mata's. But he's versatile, so I think de Bruyne will spend more time on the flanksThis is the main thing for me...I think Mata is definitely better (as of right now) and will play in that role. de Bruyne can easily play there, but KDB can just as well do the same thing from the right, whilst giving us more width and excellent wide delivery. With Mata on the right, we will definitely be narrow. He would have to cut in more. With KDB there it gives us more freedom. He will still drift in of course, and with Azpi on the overlap we at times will have a middle 3.Can't wait to see some of the linkup play between Hazard Mata and KDB, and thats not even including Oscar who is just as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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