Heisenberg 1,824 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Rooney is one of the best player in the world, as a Chelsea supporter I would love to have him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 how many seasons do you Rooney has scored 20+ league goals then? at least when Drogba does it he wins the Golden Boot! how many times has Rooney won that btw?? I was just high lighting some flawed logic, I don't agree that +20 league goals actually makes a striker world class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 If things are based on four standard positions being keeper, defence, midfield and strikers then Messi and Ronaldo have to be considered strikers. The offensive area they play on the field suggests they cannot be classed midfielders.You do realize there are more than four positions in football! Messi and Ronaldo are not in any way strikers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Rooney is one of the best player in the world, as a Chelsea supporter I would love to have him.LOOL! no he isn't! as an out and out striker he is crap and no where near the level of players like Falcao, RVP, Benzema, Higuain, Ibrahimovic, Drogba, Villa, Aguero ect and as someone who plays behind a striker he is no where near the level of players like Hazard, Mata, Silva, Iniesta, Fabregas, Kagawa, Cazorla, Ozil, Modric ect and thats without even mentioning Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar who Rooney is a billion miles away from getting anywhere near!I dont think you realize just how overrated Rooney is! He is nothing more than a bench-warmer at United now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 You do realize there are more than four positions in football! Messi and Ronaldo are not in any way strikers!You don't say?!If you read my post properly i said 'standard' positions, i.e when people dish out awards or generalise positions they inevitably go into one of four as mentioned.If going on that basis, i am saying that there is no way Ronaldo and Messi can be classed midfielders over strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 LOOL! no he isn't! as an out and out striker he is crap and no where near the level of players like Falcao, RVP, Benzema, Higuain, Ibrahimovic, Drogba, Villa, Aguero ect and as someone who plays behind a striker he is no where near the level of players like Hazard, Mata, Silva, Iniesta, Fabregas, Kagawa, Cazorla, Ozil, Modric ect and thats without even mentioning Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar who Rooney is a billion miles away from getting anywhere near!I dont think you realize just how overrated Rooney is! He is nothing more than a bench-warmer at United now.And i think that you dont realize just how you post is idiot. If you told me that he loves Money , i'll say yes , but Wayne is a top top player , how many goals he scored ? How many assists he made ? If United are always title contenders, its also because Roo is always on the scoresheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 You don't say?!If you read my post properly i said 'standard' positions, i.e when people dish out awards or generalise positions they inevitably go into one of four as mentioned.If going on that basis, i am saying that there is no way Ronaldo and Messi can be classed midfielders over strikers.why are you generalizing positions anyway? we are not talking about awards ect, we are talking about world class strikers and Messi and Roanldo dont come into that category as they are not strikers! and in terms of awards they would be classed as forwards not strikers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Chelsea to make £20m deadline day bid for Bayer Leverkusen forward Andre Schurrlehttp://www.telegraph...e-Schurrle.htmlSchurrle heading for Chelsea as Di Matteo prepares to let Sturridge departhttp://www.dailymail...e-Schurrle.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 dislike Rooney but it is difficult not to accept that he would strengthen any side. He is versatile skillful and strong. Moreover he is a team player.Yes call him Shrek ,, Granny shagger or whatever but don't deny his ability on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 And i think that you dont realize just how you post is idiot. If you told me that he loves Money , i'll say yes , but Wayne is a top top player , how many goals he scored ? How many assists he made ? If United are always title contenders, its also because Roo is always on the scoresheet.HAHA!!! stop acting as if im saying Rooney is a conference player! he is a very good player but no where near the very best in his position! so would you really have rather have Rooney leading the line for your team than all of those strikers i mentioned? and would you rather have Rooney playing behind your striker than all those creative midfielders i mentioned? because if you would then your mad! Rooney isn't at that level and now that he is a bench-warmer i doubt he ever will.btw Rooney has won the PL four times and the highest amount of league goals he scored during those title wining seasons was 14! its not all about Rooney at united so stop overrating him as everyone always does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGuerreiro 252 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 LOOL! no he isn't! as an out and out striker he is crap and no where near the level of players like Falcao, RVP, Benzema, Higuain, Ibrahimovic, Drogba, Villa, Aguero ect and as someone who plays behind a striker he is no where near the level of players like Hazard, Mata, Silva, Iniesta, Fabregas, Kagawa, Cazorla, Ozil, Modric ect and thats without even mentioning Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar who Rooney is a billion miles away from getting anywhere near!I dont think you realize just how overrated Rooney is! He is nothing more than a bench-warmer at United now.This post is ridiculous, Rooney no more than a bench-warmer? Rooney is pure class and would get in every single team in the world bar maybe Barcelona.He's not an out and out striker but yet he managed to score 37 goals last season, 27 in the league (in 32 games, Persie scored 30 goals in 37 games), outscoring Benzema, Higuain, Drogba, Villa and Aguero (5 of 8 from your list of WC strikers). And yet scoring goals isn't even his best trait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 HAHA!!! stop acting as if im saying Rooney is a conference player! he is a very good player but no where near the very best in his position! so would you really have rather have Rooney leading the line for your team than all of those strikers i mentioned? and would you rather have Rooney playing behind your striker than all those creative midfielders i mentioned? because if you would then your mad! Rooney isn't at that level and now that he is a bench-warmer i doubt he ever will.btw Rooney has won the PL four times and the highest amount of league goals he scored during those title wining seasons was 14! its not all about Rooney at united so stop overrating him as everyone always does!Maybe because he was injured ?Anyway its your opinion , for me he is better than VP Torres and co, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Maybe because he was injured ?Anyway its your opinion , for me he is better than VP Torres and co, so how do you expect Fergie to fit Rooney, RVP and Kagawa in the same team all in their favored positions? he cant so you will see RVP up front with Kagawa behind and Rooney warming the bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Chelsea to make £20m deadline day bid for Bayer Leverkusen forward Andre Schurrlehttp://www.telegraph...e-Schurrle.htmlSchurrle heading for Chelsea as Di Matteo prepares to let Sturridge departhttp://www.dailymail...e-Schurrle.htmlChelsea to make £20m deadline day bid for Bayer Leverkusen forward Andre Schurrlehttp://www.telegraph...e-Schurrle.htmlSchurrle heading for Chelsea as Di Matteo prepares to let Sturridge departhttp://www.dailymail...e-Schurrle.htmlLook under the Daily mail Pic of Sturridge....Didn't realise he was Dean?! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 So looks like it's happening...when we played Leverkusen last season I was really impressed by him. He was making our players a new arsehole throughout a whole game and was their best player. That said I do follow Bundesliga from time to time, but I usually don't watch Bayer so I don't know that much about him.He is only 21 so there is a lot of potential there...if we sign him I'll welcome him but I feel we don't need him with Sturridge here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 This post is ridiculous, Rooney no more than a bench-warmer? Rooney is pure class and would get in every single team in the world bar maybe Barcelona.He's not an out and out striker but yet he managed to score 37 goals last season, 27 in the league (in 32 games, Persie scored 30 goals in 37 games), outscoring Benzema, Higuain, Drogba, Villa and Aguero (5 of 8 from your list of WC strikers). And yet scoring goals isn't even his best trait.Rooney is bench warmer now! loool! Rooney wouldn't get into the Chelsea team, he wouldn't get into the Man City team or the Bayern and Real Madrid teams either! and please tell me you not serious about your last comment regarding goals scored? Hunterlaar scored 48 goals last season in 47 games does that warrant him a place on the list of world class strikers? or how about Jordan Rhodes with 40 goals in 45 games?Its not all about goals scored you know its about producing at the highest level in the big games when things really matter not scoring hat-tricks against teams like Bolton! what has Rooney done for England in the major tournaments? where was Rooney in the CL group stage last season? where was he in the big Manc derby at the end of last season? he was no where to be seen! Where was Benzema and Higuain for Madrid last season? they both banged in goals and many important goals to help them win La Liga, where was Falcao last season? he was leading his team to win the Europa League and scoring 2 goals in the final! where was Agureo last season? he was banging in goals and many important goals to win City the PL! where was RVP last season? he single-Handedly carried his team into a top 4 finish last season! and do i really need to tell you what Drogba done last season? You see Rooney is a good player, but no where near consistent enough he has one good season in term of goals then follows it up with a pathetic season then when you start talking about what he has done on the international stage it just makes things even more laughable! enough of this crap now anyway Rooney isn't world class and never will be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 I will be so happy if we can get Schurrle! we would have so much quality in our squad our strength in depth would be ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Rooney is a great player end of story. Anyone who says otherwise needs to put aside their delusions. Anyway Schurrle is by most accounts mediocre. I would welcome him but with a lot of doubts. A lot. Sturridge has more talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Schurrle isn't even a pure striker. Why people want him as a Sturridge replacement is ridiculous. He isn't a natural striker like Sturridge is. For me, Schurrle's position in the squad is already filled out by Victor Moses. The club aren't stupid enough to sign him and let Sturridge go out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Schurrle isn't even a pure striker. Why people want him as a Sturridge replacement is ridiculous. He isn't a natural striker like Sturridge is. For me, Schurrle's position in the squad is already filled out by Victor Moses.The club aren't stupid enough to sign him and let Sturridge go out on loan.Schurrle is a better striker than Sturridge, Moses will take Sturridge's place at RW Schurrle is better on the left and is a far better back up striker than Sturridge. Its ridiculous to think Sturridge even has a future at Chelsea!RDM doesn't rate Sturridge or even see him as someone who can lead the lineSturridge has terrible work-rateSturridge is not a team playerSturridge has a terrible attitudeour whole system is about passing and moving, interchanging potions and creating for the front man, with quick wide men who can beat a man and get crosses into the box and link up play as well and Sturridge does not like playing like that.As i said he has no future at Chelsea unless he can make alot of changes which wont happen its best to get rid of him, and Schurrle is an ideal player to bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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