bushman 2,043 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Again, stop looking just at scorelines and watch some of the games. Swansea are a good team and we outplayed them last night. The problem came down to one man not doing his job (Torres) and one man making two mistakes.The managerial issue is a problem, but it will hopefully be solved in the summer. The Lampard situation is a cloud that will be gone in the summer too. Hopefully we can move on Torres at some point, whatever it takes but let's not get too maudlin about the situation.I have watched more Chelsea games than you can imagine. Swansea might be a good team but not good enough to blanked Chelsea at home. Perhaps, you see them as rosy as you indicated but I do not.Managerial situation will be solved in the summer, I read. Too late then. Chelsea needs help now or face the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaChelsea68 53 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 A disappointment last night.Played ok but made some silly mistakesTorres has got to go...Roman needs to learn and keep his nose out of football matters £80 million wasted on 2 burnt out has beens.I try and look on the bright side we've won the last 9/10 semi finals so perhaps we are due to miss out on one?I think we as fans can over react at times we can't win every game.Still a little hope in the 2nd leg an early goal and who knows?once a Blue Always a BlueCome on Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 for me Mata was piss poor last night He was. He missed great chances, was greedy when Oscar was in a much better position and then went missing in the second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sorry but last night we played fucking shitWe really didn't. We lacked a little incisiveness but that comes from having Torres up-front. We actually had more of the game then a pretty good Swansea team. Their goal came against the run of play and as I've said already, both goals came from individual mistakes.If we play like that against Stoke and have Ba up-front then we should be able to get a result.I have watched more Chelsea games than you can imagine. Swansea might be a good team but not good enough to blanked Chelsea at home. Perhaps, you see them as rosy as you indicated but I do not.Managerial situation will be solved in the summer, I read. Too late then. Chelsea needs help now or face the consequences. I can imagine quite a lot of matches.Who would you look to to solve the problem now then? And what problem is it that you actually think needs solving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What hurts is that we had Swansea under control and if not for the unusual mistakes of Ivanovic, they wouldn't have scored.Ramires was clumsy on some occasion but I much prefer Luiz and Ramires in midfield than Luiz and Lampard in Midfield.They were closing down Swansea quite well, I don't think we would have been better with Lampard in his role.I think we should stop with Lampard deeper and if the manager want to use him, Play him behind the striker, and move Mata to the right.Demba must start, Torres only coming when we are in the lead and the opponents leave much more space behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrippingStep 336 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sorry but last night we played fucking shit, which surprises me somewhat as the "three amigo's" as they are commonly known as were playing together, that and the fact we were at home. I am just at a complete loss at what exactly we were aiming to do to create chances. Poor crosses into the box, and the occasional half decent cross that found it's way into the box had no one on the end of it. As well as passing it round the back in our own half for what seemed like an eternity. We just looked poor yesterday and really that's all there is to say.I feel for Ivanovic, he rarely makes damaging mistakes, let alone 2, of which both lead to goals. He looked distraught so I'm not going to join in the Brana Bashing (if there actually is any, I've decided not to bother looking at twitter and the like when we lose as the fickle fans seem to appear out of the woodwork).If it was at all unclear to Rafa that Torres needs to be fucking benched for AT LEAST a couple of games then yesterday should have made it clear, Ba made an impact the minute he came on the pitch having 2 headers, someone who can consistently get on the end of crosses with devastating effect, he actually excites me, whether or not those of you think he is a world class striker or not I don't know- maybe it's just the fact that we have endured so long having a striker who fails to make himself known on the pitch more often than not, who doesn't seem to give a fuck about whether we win or lose and always has a fucking frown on his face, we actually now have someone who can fullfil the role of "striker".Parts of me wants to just forget about the match last night, others want to keep it at the forefront of my mind and hope that the Fat fucking Spanish Waiter keeps it at the front of his. Please start Ba from now on. And FUCKING SORT YOURSELF OUT RAFA.Despite that, we had Mata and Luiz on great position inside the box to score, same for Ramires.Two three overlaps from Azpi and Cole in good position.Another one on the flick of Oscar to Mata who crossed with his right with Torres watching and not rushing towards the goal.A great ball of Luiz to Oscar behind the defence, even if it was complicated to control the ball with the leg a bit stretched.Two headers from Ba and a dubious off-side call on his goal.And that with Swansea defending very deep.For me it was a better performance than against QPR and Norwich where we didn't create many chances. And QPR was not defending well, worse than Swansea.It's not perfect but you must remember last year, It ended well with the champion's league but it was not like Chelsea was that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFCRazor 49 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We need another striker, Torres is just not worth the position on the pitch, he clearly doesn't give a flying fuck about the team, and it seems not his football anymore either. I thought something would come from him yesterday when he turned and struck the ball (yes it went over but he actually had a shot). We also need to stop trying to walk the ball into the back of the net, and start having more actual shots, the amount of times we get the ball and try and run it past every defender in the box to be one on one with the keeper. I know our attacking players are kind of built for that but seriously, take a shot in anger every now and then from outside of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We really didn't. We lacked a little incisiveness but that comes from having Torres up-front. We actually had more of the game then a pretty good Swansea team. Their goal came against the run of play and as I've said already, both goals came from individual mistakes.If we play like that against Stoke and have Ba up-front then we should be able to get a result.I can imagine quite a lot of matches.Who would you look to to solve the problem now then? And what problem is it that you actually think needs solving?Most likely, I watched more football games than you only dream of.I see more players bought for the midfield. Perhaps, two might do. Still I see another striker to rotate with BA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 We need spirit that made Chelsea kings of Europe, says Gary Cahill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I think we have had a bad season, but i am not buying the whole, "our club is in bits" situation. We are fourth in the league with a game in hand, in what has always been deemed as a transisition year. Yes we have problems but we have a great attack which if we start ba should be more than enough to keep us in the top 4 this season, and avert any disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejavuetall 1 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We need more strikers. Like 2 new strikers will do us well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 He may not be majorly at fault, cos he simply is no more than an average coach with some ok defensive tactics, but a high-scoring win and losses in every big game no matter how bad the opposition is just seems to be very much like Scolari. Only because they won big titles ages ago they are no great coaches after all. Guys like Ancelotti, Mourinho got consistent success but benitez' teams had been shit since 2009. He took over two CL winners and fucked up with either's decent squad. You can blame Torres, but it is Benitez who picked him and Benitez who should know about his habit of going missing when it counts. Mata's been shit for a while now, reminds one of last season when there also was a stark contrast between his first and second half of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Positive thing is that fat man is now forced to make Ba the main man....Fukk rafa and nino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Land 331 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Complete overreaction.We were,as a team,fantastic yesterday.Dominated Swansea and created chances.The problem was obviously the finishing.I don't like blaming players for losses but It is impossible not say that Ivanovic was the one and only reason we didn't at least draw 0-0 yesterday.Ivanovic 2 - Chelsea 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 LMAOYou have been extra good lately Kojo, I think I liked all all of your posts today!That's because he is a good poster - always has been, just people had an 'Agenda' against him - and he made calls that weren't popular - but turned out to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We really didn't. We lacked a little incisiveness but that comes from having Torres up-front. We actually had more of the game then a pretty good Swansea team. Their goal came against the run of play and as I've said already, both goals came from individual mistakes.If we play like that against Stoke and have Ba up-front then we should be able to get a result.I can imagine quite a lot of matches.Who would you look to to solve the problem now then? And what problem is it that you actually think needs solving?I agree... We looked good - dominated the ball, and with BA on the pitch could have won the game, or at least drawn 2-2... The problem was clearly Torres - he kept fucking off to the wing and then trying to cross the ball - who the fuck are you crossing to Nando - YOU should be in the fucking box!He made their defender look awesome, BA came on and showed their defender was shit... Exactly what happened at QPR - Torres made Nelson look good...Strikers are our main problem - we need BA + 1We could also do with Fellani - I'm convinced Fellani + Luiz in midfield would work really well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Against Swansea and QPR, we had 50 shots, only 10 of them on target and 0 goals. 0 goals on 50 shots!!! Torres only took 6 of those shots. Luiz and Ivanovic combining for 16 shots in those two games with 2 of them on goal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 Against Swansea and QPR, we had 50 shots, only 10 of them on target and 0 goals. 0 goals on 50 shots!!! Torres only took 6 of those shots. Luiz and Ivanovic combining for 16 shots in those two games with 2 of them on goal.. Problem in those 2 games were though we had more possession than QPR and Swansea in both games, we hardly even created any really clear cut chances. When we did create those type of chances, we tried to be clever with the finishing or let down by poor shots but overall, it wasn't good enough!Against QPR, it was all shooting from distance. Against Swansea, it was all pass pass pass pass pass pass and no end product. Had no guile and penetration to break those 2 teams down. We're becoming like Arsenal at the moment. Bottling chances to win trophies and then pass pass pass pass pass but create nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtraxion 100 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Against Swansea and QPR, we had 50 shots, only 10 of them on target and 0 goals. 0 goals on 50 shots!!! Torres only took 6 of those shots. Luiz and Ivanovic combining for 16 shots in those two games with 2 of them on goal.. I hate those moments when Luiz decides to shoot. You see him going for the shot and you think , not again.. Despite that, he had a very good game yesterday, solid, good interceptions and some super long balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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