Demba Ba

[Henrique 9,133]

From hero to zero. Scored a vital goal last game, just too miss an unbelievable chance today.

Theres is a reason why he has no future as a Chelsea player.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Yes great goals recently but today's horror misses are why Jose is still right about him

No ***** consistency in the strikers at all

[Henrique 9,133]

I have to adimit I'm not a big fan of his celebrations. Actually I dont like any kind of celebration related with any kind of religion.

Interesting article about the subject:

http://www.goal.com/en-india/news/2292/editorials/2009/07/07/1368862/goalcom-worldview-is-there-a-place-for-religious-celebrations-in-

I'm ultra-liberal, so Ba does whatever he want to, but whe the team is trying to celebrate with him, he is praying, that does not look right to me, just like I have to admit I feel uncofortable when braziliam players are wearing "Jesus" shirts while representing Brazil (Lucio even lift the 09 Conf. Cup trophy with a Jesus shirt, and the players prayed after the match like they were in a rligious convention).

Religion is a very sensitive subject, while football is a global game. Imo as long as you are on the pitch, there is only one purpose there: win and win.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He can build an altar and make a human sacrifice for all I care, as long as he scores a goal for Chelsea.

[Henrique 9,133]

He can build an altar and make a human sacrifice for all I care, as long as he scores a goal for Chelsea.

Good for you.

[TheWiz 109]

(Lucio even lift the 09 Conf. Cup trophy with a Jesus shirt, and the players prayed after the match like they were in a rligious convention).

LoL .. it's funny the way you describe that Moment. Never saw it.

However, I think everybody can express their Joy the way they want as long as other People are not offended by it.

So if Demba Ba and Muhamid Salah celebrate in a religious Fashion, its their Choice. B/c one must accept that there are People who take their Religion more seriously than others. And noone can argue against it b/c everyone has the right to Self-Expression and the right to believe in whatever he/she wants.

So I see no Problem there really, and he celebrates with his Teammates as well ...

[LAB 1,030]

Religion is a very sensitive subject, while football is a global game. Imo as long as you are on the pitch, there is only one purpose there: win and win.

The purpose of players while playing is to win, but celebration of a player is a personal matter. No one has ever stopped while the ball is in play to pray for no reason, so drop it.

[robsblubot 3,595]

Just notice that Salah celebrates with his teammates FIRST and then does his own thing. While Ba seems to ignore his teammates until he's done, which for a player so dependent on assists, does seem a bit odd to me.

The club can also argue that "over" religion might be going against teamwork, unity, or whatnot. Wouldn't players of the same religion form a tight group? it ALWAYS happens as people team up with their equals. Like Henrique said it has happened in Brazil before and it has been rumored that Dunga (and Jorginho) built a weaker Brazil side in 2010 WC to accommodate a group of very religious athletes (some belong to a group known as "Athletes of Christ").

Also, imagine a player who will not play in certain places, or against certain teams. That might or might not be acceptable to the employer, the club.

People don't seem to realize being a professional player is "just" a job. And NO players CANNOT do whatever they want to do. In some countries they have some legal protections concerning religion, but not in others.

All I am saying is that this is a very controversial subject and not the "drop it" that some are trying to make it.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Inter are also believed to be strongly interested in Demba Ba. (Daily Mail)

[Henrique 9,133]

LoL .. it's funny the way you describe that Moment. Never saw it.

However, I think everybody can express their Joy the way they want as long as other People are not offended by it.

So if Demba Ba and Muhamid Salah celebrate in a religious Fashion, its their Choice. B/c one must accept that there are People who take their Religion more seriously than others. And noone can argue against it b/c everyone has the right to Self-Expression and the right to believe in whatever he/she wants.

So I see no Problem there really, and he celebrates with his Teammates as well ...

As I said, as a liberal I believe Ba should do whataver he wants to, bu it doesnt mean I dont have an opinion about that subject.

I dont feel confortable with religious celebration, but its a good thing that people are allowed to do it.

[Jype 6,398]

Inter are also believed to be strongly interested in Demba Ba. (Daily Mail)

Inter are free to buy all our rejects this summer. Torres, Ba, Mikel.

[Yeboii 1,844]

Just notice that Salah celebrates with his teammates FIRST and then does his own thing

Yeah I remember when he scored against Stoke he was moving like he was gonna go down on his knees but stopped and celebrated with his teammates first.

Ba does the praying part first then celebrates with his teammates.

I don't really care anyway how they do it, I have respect for all religions so it doesn't bother me. If someone would stop after scoring to meditate for an hour on the field maybe that would be a problem tho lol.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Just notice that Salah celebrates with his teammates FIRST and then does his own thing. While Ba seems to ignore his teammates until he's done, which for a player so dependent on assists, does seem a bit odd to me.

The club can also argue that "over" religion might be going against teamwork, unity, or whatnot. Wouldn't players of the same religion form a tight group? it ALWAYS happens as people team up with their equals. Like Henrique said it has happened in Brazil before and it has been rumored that Dunga (and Jorginho) built a weaker Brazil side in 2010 WC to accommodate a group of very religious athletes (some belong to a group known as "Athletes of Christ").

Also, imagine a player who will not play in certain places, or against certain teams. That might or might not be acceptable to the employer, the club.

People don't seem to realize being a professional player is "just" a job. And NO players CANNOT do whatever they want to do. In some countries they have some legal protections concerning religion, but not in others.

All I am saying is that this is a very controversial subject and not the "drop it" that some are trying to make it.

You have a point. Another example, more recent, was with Pappis Cisse and Wonga sponsoring NUFC.

But I think these examples are a different debate from a celebration. If the religious aspect was just limited to this, and the player agreed to this, then I don't think there's an issue. But as you say, they can't then begin to dictate the club's actions because they should know that comes with a job. There haven't been many high profile issues regarding religious practices in football because of the mutual respect between those in the sports and those still strictly religious.

[robsblubot 3,595]

You have a point. Another example, more recent, was with Pappis Cisse and Wonga sponsoring NUFC.

But I think these examples are a different debate from a celebration. If the religious aspect was just limited to this, and the player agreed to this, then I don't think there's an issue. But as you say, they can't then begin to dictate the club's actions because they should know that comes with a job. There haven't been many high profile issues regarding religious practices in football because of the mutual respect between those in the sports and those still strictly religious.

yeah absolutely, I don't think there is an "issue" per se anyway. Like Henrique, I was just expressing a personal preference, which is for the way Salah handles it.

frankly, we just don't have enough visibility into the locker room and who's friend's with who. I assure you though, it is certainly something that clubs pay attention to.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

yeah absolutely, I don't think there is an "issue" per se anyway. Like Henrique, I was just expressing a personal preference, which is for the way Salah handles it.

frankly, we just don't have enough visibility into the locker room and who's friend's with who. I assure you though, it is certainly something that clubs pay attention to.

Of course. The last thing we need again is the cliquey dressing room we all were witnessed to in previous years, especially post-Mourinho to AVB era.