Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 If Torres had finished his thousand chances, and actually looked interested and worked hard, we wouldn't of lost so many points, so therefor i consider him a huge factor.100%, but the argument is about him staying in the bench as a huge factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 100%, but the argument is about him staying in the bench as a huge factor.Well i don't know about that, it can't be proven if Abramovich has a lot of love for him, all i know is, is that he's shit enough to get another few managers fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Well i don't know about that, it can't be proven if Abramovich has a lot of love for him, all i know is, is that he's shit enough to get another few managers fired.Dont worry, Benitez will get him back...THIS:Torres to score a hatrick on Sunday, I am feeling it. I am absolutely positive he will thrive under Rafa. Carlo, AVB and RDM are not up to his standard.It is all Mazacar`s fault, no linkup play and no width. I am sure that with Kuyt and Downing he will comeback.C`MON TORRES, GOLDEN BOOT WINNER!Haters gonna hate... :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Dont worry, Benitez will get him back...THIS: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:Torres to score a hatrick on Sunday, I am feeling it. I am absolutely positive he will thrive under Rafa. Carlo, AVB and RDM are not up to his standard.It is all Mazacar`s fault, no linkup play and no width. I am sure that with Kuyt and Downing he will comeback.I would be overjoyed if by any miracle Torres morphed into the player he once was. I fear the reason for his downfall however is nowhere related to lack of linkup play (facts?) or even because the 'coach' is not up to Torres' standard. That is quite an assumption you put forth there :-)Evidence seems to falsify your comment: if you go beyond opinion, facts and stats are all that you can rely on and they are ALL in contradiction with your statements. The only variable in the last years of changing suppliers, play systems and managers IS Torres. And he is a stable variable: the sucky kind. So: Torres is a liability, not an opportunity (except maybe for getting Rafa fired) Greetz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 @Stingray, it was an absolute sarcastic post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 @Stingray, it was an absolute sarcastic post. Lol! Fuck, you got me going there, mate :-) I so believed that shit :-) ouch Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinol 337 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 I dont want to speculate in the question that Torres got RDM sacked etc but, for me, one thing is sure. That if we would have got rid of Torres, who clearly showed that he would never become useful, in the summer and get a new striker, we would never be in the situation we are right now. Im 1000% of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 So it's Torres' fault that the club decided to go into a new season with one striker who has zero confidence and no sort of form, and one striker who can't even be trusted to play the right-wing role let alone at centre forward? The board took a gamble on Torres being able to perform as the main striker and it hasn't paid off, who's fault is that?This is what happens when people believe what's written in the Daily Mail.there you go focusing on only one line in my post. Just becuase i say Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked you think i envision him going up to Roman and saying fire RDM for benching me. If thats the case then i feel sorry for you. If you looked at my earlier posts you'd see i critize ROMAN for placing Torres above the club, and refrain from calling "the board" the "board" anymore, for they are a bunch of clowns having a ball up there. but nope you wouldn't know that now would you. Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked, everything revolves around how he feels, plays, acts, talks etc etc.and lastly, you think i got time to read the Daily Fail and believe their articles, i havent read any of their articles regarding the RDM sacking but nope, you would know if i have huh? consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance. might aswell call me a socialist now because i share many of the same views as Obama why don't you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 there you go focusing on only one line in my post. Just becuase i say Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked you think i envision him going up to Roman and saying fire RDM for benching me. If thats the case then i feel sorry for you.If you looked at my earlier posts you'd see i critize ROMAN for placing Torres above the club, and refrain from calling "the board" the "board" anymore, for they are a bunch of clowns having a ball up there. but nope you wouldn't know that now would you. Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked, everything revolves around how he feels, plays, acts, talks etc etc.and lastly, you think i got time to read the Daily Fail and believe their articles, i havent read any of their articles regarding the RDM sacking but nope, you would know if i have huh? consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance. might aswell call me a socialist now because i share many of the same views as Obama why don't you. at that reply. Funny that you have a go at me for putting words in your mouth yet you've done exactly the same thing.consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance. Right, you just have the time to type out that reply. Isn't that convenient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Very worried now that Torres will start regardless until Rafa has gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Very worried now that Torres will start regardless until Rafa has gone.Im trying to stay positive maybe he will get suspended or injured... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 No he is not. Stop believing in the media bullshit.He is a factor, of course, but not near as important as evreyone is trying to make him. If RDM was winning the games without Torres he would not get fired. Fernando is a small discontentment between many bigger ones.There is no reading between the lines. There is me being rational and you being naive.well this is me trying to be rational .... it was Romans decision to start the season with just Torres and Sturridge ....Now I will Quote the SpecialOne ,,,I cannot make the best omelettes with poor eggs.... Roberto was expected to do it with one cracked egg,,,Do try this home...Incidentally during the war eggs were rationed so peoplel used powdered eggs ....THEY WERE FUCKING DISGUSTING ,,as bad as Russian Snoek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 STOP RIGHT THERE, i cannot be arsed with this, NOT NOW!!!!.Just when i was getting so excited this little shit would leave the club and then no more excuses, then Benitez comes in and it all looks different, also with more false hopes, lets face it Torres is finished. And he's proven it this season, he's had all the creativity, he misses chances all the time, let the fucker go.Kojo I agree with what your saying, I really do. I cannot stand watching Torres fail time and time again but Roman is the man who decides and if he decides that he wants the Chelsea team to be built around the waste of money then all I can do is pray that Benitez brings the old Nando back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 and so it begins again. "oh i hope he ll be back to his old form", "the el nino is gonna be back", "oh i am sure this time he will ge great for sure", what an idiotic bunch of people we all are... chelseathebest, nachikethas, Styles and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Im trying to stay positive maybe he will get suspended or injured...That's pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 That's pathetic.just mirroring the whole situation or are you happy ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando 106 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Next interview with him will be worth reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "Glad Rafa is here, we both still love Liverpool." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 "Glad Rafa is here, we both still love Liverpool."WTF?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Was a joke bud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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