Fernando Torres

[YouNameIt 1,511]

I feel bad for Torres, at the end of the day he did not ask us to pay 50 million for him, his just had bad luck since joining us and I think its affected him mentally coupled with his bad knee. I am not justfying him just that I think we need to catch him a break, he was not at fault for us not turning up in the 2nd half against PSG although he could hv done better, same can be said of willian, hazard and ramires who also wasted good chances. He did not make Mou agree to send Lukaku out on loan. I know he has his flaws but at lest catch him a break

Ye i feel really sorry for him with all the money he's making

[BloodIsBlue 291]

I feel bad for Torres, at the end of the day he did not ask us to pay 50 million for him, his just had bad luck since joining us and I think its affected him mentally coupled with his bad knee. I am not justfying him just that I think we need to catch him a break, he was not at fault for us not turning up in the 2nd half against PSG although he could hv done better, same can be said of willian, hazard and ramires who also wasted good chances. He did not make Mou agree to send Lukaku out on loan. I know he has his flaws but at lest catch him a break

He did ask us to pay him 13.9m a year so the pansy can just leave because his fragile knees and ego has cost us enough.

EDIT: Reacted so fast to this comment I didn't realize i was the third person in a row to say the exact same thing.

[Thistle 77]

Would not upset me for him to go Bogarde on us for the rest of his contract so we can give games to players that care

[LAM09 6,744]

I would really love to know what has happened to him to go from his Liverpool form, to what we have to put up with now. An injury surely can't take all your ability away. They say class is permanent, but Torres looks like he is the exception.

[FabHazard 655]

Exclusive Fernando Torres interview: ‘I can make Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho think I’m the best option for him’

Torres has been on the receiving end of some criticism from his manager, but, he tells Sam Wallace, is determined to prove he’s the man to lead Chelsea’s line and believes that will earn him a place in Spain’s World Cup squad

SAM WALLACE

Friday 04 April 2014

There is a moment in my conversation with Fernando Torres when he stops and goes right back to the start of his career, to when he was a teenager at Atletico Madrid, and recalls what it was like to be looking in from the outside at the high-stakes world of elite football, and all its imponderables.

He remembers the summer of 1998 when the Italian striker Christian Vieri left the club for Lazio having been La Liga’s top goalscorer in his one season there. Torres was just 14 at the time and was “watching Atletico from the stands” right up to the moment he made his debut three years later. He was bemused by Vieri’s decision to leave.

“I didn’t realise how my life was changing,” he says. “When I was 17, 18, 20, I didn’t realise how big football was and everything around football. How many people live for football and love football. I was a professional but I was a supporter. When I was 14 years old and when Christian Vieri left I didn’t understand why the players were leaving! Then through the years you understand more things and you have to be more careful when you do things.”

Since then he has made his own big moves, from Atletico to Liverpool and on to Chelsea, the £50m transfer in January 2011 that made him the most expensive footballer in British history. Torres’ story remains one of the most intriguing in English football, the man who was once arguably the deadliest striker on the planet with 81 goals in 143 games for Liverpool who has never been able to recreate that level of form at Chelsea.

Torres does not do a lot of interviews but he has made an exception in this case and he faces the issues in his own career in unblinking fashion in a small meeting room at Cobham, having come straight from the training-ground pitch with the muddy shins to prove it. He is a thoughtful, contemplative type who weighs his answers carefully and does not dodge the difficult questions.

It has not been a good week at Chelsea. Two defeats, to Crystal Palace on Saturday and then 3-1 away to Paris Saint-Germain on Wednesday, in which Torres was a second-half substitute with André Schürrle picked ahead of him. Afterwards, Jose Mourinho was critical of his strikers. Asked whether he would have beaten PSG had he had their forwards at his disposal, the Chelsea manager replied, “Of course.”

With Samuel Eto’o still injured it will be instructive to see who Mourinho picks to lead the line against Stoke City today. In a season interrupted by injury, Torres has scored eight goals, four of them in the Premier League. In the past, most notably at the end of the 2011-12 season, he has declared himself unhappy with any demotion from first-team action but not, he says, under Mourinho.

“He [Mourinho] has to choose the one [striker] he thinks is better and try to manage the situation with the players,” Torres says. “He didn’t do anything special with me. Just treats me like one more. He puts me on the pitch when he thinks I am the best option and on the bench when he thinks I am not the best option.

“My aim is to try to make him feel I am always the best option for him. You have to have ways to adapt to this situation. Blame the manager? Blame your team-mates? Blame everyone? Or ask from yourself a bit more. I think I can do better. I can make Jose think I am the best option. That is what I have to do every day in training, all the matches. I just ask of myself the responsibility.

“The things you cannot change you can’t waste your time on. I cannot [automatically] change the way the manager thinks so I have to ask myself and be critical with myself to try to understand what he wants. I have to put more and more effort into these things. It is what I have been doing all my life … I cannot change the others so I have to be critical of myself.

“You have to prove yourself every day. You have to live for today. Three years ago? Five years ago? It’s today. If the manager thinks there is another player better than you he is going to play and this is the way. You have to try to improve and keep fighting and try to change the manager’s mind. Hopefully one day Jose can say ‘This [Torres] is my striker, he is going to be my striker’ like he does with some of the players who have won the appreciation from him.”

Fernando Torres as a substitute during the midweek Champions League defeat against Paris Saint-Germain

It is a strikingly humble approach from the man who has won a World Cup, two European Championships, a Champions League, Europa League and the FA Cup since he came to England in 2007. Watching him play, it can be difficult to read the emotions of Torres through that glassy-eyed stare maintained in triumph and calamity, but once he starts talking he is a fascinating subject.

Does he feel that, given what he has won, and having only just turned 30 last month, there is insufficient appreciation of his achievements? “I am sure people appreciate [me] … this is what I feel from people outside and from the supporters. Everything I have done in my career I have done from my values and doing things the way I like to do. So winning doesn’t matter the world for me... it’s worth it if you feel you fought for it and you have failed [along the way].

“This is the way to win, not everything is nice and you are the best in the world every day and you score five goals every game. Life is not like this. There are ups and downs and you have to go through all these things to appreciate when you win, this is a really good win.

“I feel I have had ups and downs and moments when I didn’t want to go to training or moments I really wanted to go to training because the final was coming. We started last pre-season in America 10 months ago and now we are here and all this way there have been a lot of different feelings and emotions.”

Last season was his best at Chelsea with 23 goals in all competitions, and a renewal of his partnership with his former Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez, the interim coach. Torres said he understood “what we wanted from the beginning”. This season he says he has struggled more in the games where teams have sought to deny Chelsea space but that under Mourinho they are improving all the time on how to cope with the proverbial parked bus.

In fact, it is on his role in the team and how life has changed for him that Torres is at his most erudite and illuminating. I began by asking him whether the knee operation in April 2010, which prevented him from hitting the last World Cup finals at full tilt, had been the career-changing episode – less explosive pace and power – that so many have assumed it to be.

“Who knows? You are never going to have that answer. It was not that bad an injury. It gave me a few problems after that but it is not a massive one like [his Chelsea team-mate] Marco van Ginkel [cruciate ligament] … it was one month, two month, not too bad. But the World Cup was there. At the end I was in the team that won the World Cup. There is not the point that you can say after that [it changed] … it’s not like this. Many, many things [happened]. Injuries always give you some extra problems in the future.

“You say people are always talking about fitness. Fitness is important but the most important thing is how you adapt and the way you feel physically. To adapt to a new position. To try to change your game.”

Had he had to do that? “You adapt to the way the team plays. Chelsea is not an easy team to play for because you have great players and you have to be really, really aware of the small things. The teams that come to play us go very low [deep] so the space is not there. Willian and Oscar are very mobile and quick.

Fernando Torres of Chelsea has been on the receiving end of some criticism from his manager (Getty Images)
“When you have more space, for us it is better but also it is because the other team is better and we have to be more compact, against the big teams like Manchester City, Liverpool, Bayern Munich in the Super Cup. It is not easy. The Premier League is very difficult football and very different to when you play in Europe but the player has to have experience to adapt and this is the key point.

“To change the manager quite often is not the best thing because you don’t have the stability but even doing this we won the Champions League, Europa League and FA Cup in the last two seasons, changing the manager many times. In football you cannot say: ‘These are the way things are going to be.’ Doing what is not supposed to be the right thing we won the Champions League, the most important trophy at club level. I don’t know. Everyday I think I understand less!”

We go back to the subject of Torres having to change his game as he gets older, like, for example, Alan Shearer, the Premier League’s all-time leading goalscorer. “Shearer is a clear example,” Torres says. “He adapted his game to what is better for him and he did great, always. It is not easy for a footballer to understand. You have to change because when things are not [going] well you normally think ‘I have to go back to basics, the things I have been doing’. But sometimes you have to change because the way you are playing.

“You adapt to the way your team is playing. It is what I am doing now. Atletico played one system. Spanish football is completely different. I came to England – completely different football – and I adapted very quickly because the Liverpool team with Benitez we played compact and so quick and it was easier for me. The national team and Chelsea are similar. We play with a lot of quality, we keep the ball, we pass the ball a lot of times.”

What is Torres’ future? There can be no doubt that Mourinho will buy a new striker in the summer with the preferred choice the Atletico striker Diego Costa, Brazilian-born but now a Spanish citizen who has also taken Torres’ place in the Spain squad.

“In the last month I have moved to Atletico, Valencia, Inter and Monaco,” Torres says with a smile, in reference to the stories written about him. “I have two more years left on my contract and I said on the first day that I have signed five years with Chelsea and I want to play five years with Chelsea. I have tried to win everything with this club and hopefully the Premier League is the next one. If we win the Premier League we have the chance to play the Community Shield, that’s another one we don’t have.

“We have to fight to win another Champions League and we have the chance to win the Super Cup, the Club World Cup. There are many things still to do and hopefully two years is enough. Who knows if after that more years are coming?”

There is no doubting he does want to complete the set, Community Shield and League Cup included. At the moment he faces the more pressing problem of whether he will be included in the Spain squad for the World Cup this summer having been part of the last three successful tournament campaigns. It would, I suggest, be a shame to miss out.

“It would be for me,” Torres deadpans back. “Of course I can make it. Football is about the last month and a half and that is going to be very important. I want to be there. I love to play for my country and I have been lucky enough to be in two Euros and a World Cup. We made history. No one did it before, three in a row, and we want to do the fourth. It would be amazing for this generation. So I would like to be there, but if I want to be there I have to do well for Chelsea. Score goals and win trophies.”

It is interesting to hear him talk about Costa without a hint of bitterness. “I read an interview where he [Costa] said Spain gave him everything,” Torres says. “He moved from Brazil to Portugal when he was very young and after Atletico signed him he has been on loan everywhere in Spain. So I understand what he was trying to explain. He felt Spain gave him everything in football.

“He came from Brazil and loved Brazil. But in football he felt he had something to give back to Spain and it’s great to have him. He’s had a brilliant season and I am sure he will be important for Spain in the World Cup. A great player playing for us – and not for Brazil.”

Others might have been less generous about a player switching nationality to take their place, but Torres is nothing if not gracious. He talks fondly of the Liverpool supporters who give him merciless stick in the stadium but are different “when they see me on the street or in the letters they send me”. Hope seems to spring eternal for him, whatever the challenge. He believes he will reclaim his place for Chelsea and for Spain, and staying positive, surely, is half the battle.

Fernando Torres was speaking as part of the adidas “Forever Blue” campaign to launch the new Chelsea FC 2014-15 home kit. To pre-order your new kit visit www.chelsea.com/foreverblue and join the conversation at @adidasuk #allincfc

My other life: rock music

I am a rock man: Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Red Hot Chili Peppers (below). My brother Israel is seven years older than me and when I was a kid we shared a room. So I had no choice but to listen to the music he liked. I grew up with music from my brother in my ears. I saw the Chili Peppers at the O2 Arena and I’m waiting for the Foo Fighters to come.

I am a big fan of the Gallagher brothers. At Liverpool they came a few times, they are friends of Steven Gerrard. It was nice to meet them. When I was in Spain I couldn’t speak English so I couldn’t understand the lyrics. When I came to England I started studying music and trying to understand what my favourite songs said.

Torres tally: Goals per game average

Atletico Madrid

2002-03 14 gls/31 gm (0.45gpg)

2003-04 21/40 (0.53)

2004-05 20/49 (0.41)

2005-06 13/40 (0.33)

2006-07 15/40 (0.38)

Liverpool

2007-08 33/49 (0.67)

2008-09 17/38 (0.45)

2009-10 22/32 (0.69)

2010-11 9/26 (0.35)

Chelsea

2010-11 1/18 (0.06)

2011-12 11/49 (0.22)

2012-13 22/64 (0.34)

2013-14 9/33 (0.27)

Spain

2003- 36/106 (0.34)

[iseah100 5,612]

I think the dude is depressed. He went from one of the worlds greatest strikers to a mediocre sub. It's tough, but he's also been cursed with bad knees. No excuses but I get it. I would love to see him score some important goals for us.

[The Skipper 20,593]

“In the last month I have moved to Atletico, Valencia, Inter and Monaco,” Torres says with a smile, in reference to the stories written about him. “I have two more years left on my contract and I said on the first day that I have signed five years with Chelsea and I want to play five years with Chelsea. I have tried to win everything with this club and hopefully the Premier League is the next one. If we win the Premier League we have the chance to play the Community Shield, that’s another one we don’t have. “We have to fight to win another Champions League and we have the chance to win the Super Cup, the Club World Cup. There are many things still to do and hopefully two years is enough. Who knows if after that more years are coming?”

No Fernando. Just. Fuck. Off.

[Special Juan 27,424]

Jesus this last page of the thread makes my eyes bleed.

[vergil_sparda 26]

No Fernando. Just. Fuck. Off.

That was exactly my reaction when I read that part.

Torres please just score the winner against Liverpool

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Tad bit depressing but good to see him come out and react positively rather than negatively. His career really would make a good movie. Good on you Fernando.

[bushman 2,043]

Tad bit depressing but good to see him come out and react positively rather than negatively. His career really would make a good movie. Good on you Fernando.

His movies would be a hit in Bollywood, I read.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Oh cammon... He Is SHIT!

[ZOS 580]

why is this blond bitch still in the club?

[Jase 43,479]

Tad bit depressing but good to see him come out and react positively rather than negatively. His career really would make a good movie. Good on you Fernando.

Really? That is nothing new from him. Forever talk the talk but never walk the walk. Pathetic.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Really? That is nothing new from him. Forever talk the talk but never walk the walk. Pathetic.

He's gave an interview when people asked him to. Not like he's finding ways to talk. He's past it, no matter how hard he works he won't be what he is ever again. He knows he's lying to himself if he thinks he play like he did at Liverpool. He's downplayed his injury but he knows it isn't true. Pressure combined with deteriorating physical health is a toxic combination. You work hard or not, sometimes no matter what you do, you can't be the same ever again. His career's a huge juxtaposition Even he can't say no to that.

However despite that you can't take away what he has achieved in his footballing career. I guess people can join in on insulting him (I'm not going to thrust my opinion down anyone's throat like I tried before), but he has my respect for what he's achieved even though I would probably enjoy seeing him leave at the end of the season .

[Jase 43,479]

He's gave an interview when people asked him to. Not like he's finding ways to talk. He's past it, no matter how hard he works he won't be what he is ever again. He knows he's lying to himself if he thinks he play like he did at Liverpool. He's downplayed his injury but he knows it isn't true. Pressure combined with deteriorating physical health is a toxic combination. You work hard or not, sometimes no matter what you do, you can't be the same ever again. His career's a huge juxtaposition Even he can't say no to that.

We all know he is past his form during the Liverpool days but least we want to see is maximum effort from him in every game and if he does that, then he could still do decently for us. However, we all know that is not the case. Goes AWOL 3 1/2 quarter of the time and only turn up when he fancies it. His injury may play a part in his downfall but would also throw in the mental aspect as well. Seems as though the strength of it, the know-how, intelligence of being a ST has completely gone out of the window altogether. And let's not forget that Torres has mentioned several times before that he thanked the fans for their support and wanted to repay their faith but what happened in the end? His words end up spoke louder than his actions, rather than the other way around.

However despite that you can't take away what he has achieved in his footballing career. I guess people can join in on insulting him (I'm not going to thrust my opinion down anyone's throat like I tried before), but he has my respect for what he's achieved even though I would probably enjoy seeing him leave at the end of the season .

Am aware that he has been getting 'bad comments' from fans but that is just based on his time here at the club. Nobody is discrediting him for what he has achieved (or not achieved) in his career.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

We all know he is past his form during the Liverpool days but least we want to see is maximum effort from him in every game and if he does that, then he could still do decently for us. However, we all know that is not the case. Goes AWOL 3 1/2 quarter of the time and only turn up when he fancies it. His injury may play a part in his downfall but would also throw in the mental aspect as well. Seems as though the strength of it, the know-how, intelligence of being a ST has completely gone out of the window altogether. And let's not forget that Torres has mentioned several times before that he thanked the fans for their support and wanted to repay their faith but what happened in the end? His words end up spoke louder than his actions, rather than the other way around.

agree to disagree then.

Am aware that he has been getting 'bad comments' from fans but that is just based on his time here at the club. Nobody is discrediting him for what he has achieved (or not achieved) in his career.

Highly disagree with that. Some maybe, most definitely not. But that's another debate altogether.

[Jase 43,479]

agree to disagree then.

Highly disagree with that. Some maybe, most definitely not. But that's another debate altogether.

So obvious that you are a Torres fangirl!