Fernando Torres

[Kojo 4,676]

[Hutcho 8,443]

Well lets hope he gets them 2.75 goals vs city.

[Rmpr 8,977]

STOP WITH THE STUPID "TORRES GOT RDM SACKED".

Torres is just a factor because we lost the game. If it was about Fernando, you have to believe Di Matteo would have been sacked even if he won or that he would not have been sacked if played Torres and still lost.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

STOP WITH THE STUPID "TORRES GOT RDM SACKED".

Torres is just a factor because we lost the game. If it was about Fernando, you have to believe Di Matteo would have been sacked even if he won or that he would not have been sacked if played Torres and still lost.

You said it yourself,, TORRES IS A FACTOR! why the fuck should he be even a factor!

at least when JT,Lamps,DDA and Ballack ran this club we won something every fucking year and they contributed 100x more than this little blondie. tell me besides being a passenger for ALL our Cup wins what has torres done to contribute to this club? a corner in the UCL? or a late goal vs barca which let us breathe for the final 2mins left?

he is a major major reason for RDM being sacked. and if you can't read between the lines then im sorry, we'll just have to leave it there.

look what happened when Shavchenko arrived which was Roman's buy and roman's only, that led to Mourinho being axed...why can't people see this with Torres? shake my head.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

he is a major major reason for RDM being sacked. and if you can't read between the lines then im sorry, we'll just have to leave it there.

So it's Torres' fault that the club decided to go into a new season with one striker who has zero confidence and no sort of form, and one striker who can't even be trusted to play the right-wing role let alone at centre forward? The board took a gamble on Torres being able to perform as the main striker and it hasn't paid off, who's fault is that?

This is what happens when people believe what's written in the Daily Mail.

[Rmpr 8,977]

he is a major major reason for RDM being sacked. and if you can't read between the lines then im sorry, we'll just have to leave it there.

No he is not. Stop believing in the media bullshit.

He is a factor, of course, but not near as important as evreyone is trying to make him. If RDM was winning the games without Torres he would not get fired. Fernando is a small discontentment between many bigger ones.

There is no reading between the lines. There is me being rational and you being naive.

[Kojo 4,676]

No he is not. Stop believing in the media bullshit.

He is a factor, of course, but not near as important as evreyone is trying to make him. If RDM was winning the games without Torres he would not get fired. Fernando is a small discontentment between many bigger ones.

There is no reading between the lines. There is me being rational and you being naive.

If Torres had finished his thousand chances, and actually looked interested and worked hard, we wouldn't of lost so many points, so therefor i consider him a huge factor.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

So it's Torres' fault that the club decided to go into a new season with one striker who has zero confidence and no sort of form, and one striker who can't even be trusted to play the right-wing role let alone at centre forward? The board took a gamble on Torres being able to perform as the main striker and it hasn't paid off, who's fault is that?

This is what happens when people believe what's written in the Daily Mail.

Like I said in the other thread, pure bonkers to blame Torres for the sacking and appointing. They are blinded by anger and thinking with their bollocks.

[Rmpr 8,977]

If Torres had finished his thousand chances, and actually looked interested and worked hard, we wouldn't of lost so many points, so therefor i consider him a huge factor.

100%, but the argument is about him staying in the bench as a huge factor.

[Kojo 4,676]

100%, but the argument is about him staying in the bench as a huge factor.

Well i don't know about that, it can't be proven if Abramovich has a lot of love for him, all i know is, is that he's shit enough to get another few managers fired.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Well i don't know about that, it can't be proven if Abramovich has a lot of love for him, all i know is, is that he's shit enough to get another few managers fired.

Dont worry, Benitez will get him back...THIS:

Torres to score a hatrick on Sunday, I am feeling it. I am absolutely positive he will thrive under Rafa. Carlo, AVB and RDM are not up to his standard.

It is all Mazacar`s fault, no linkup play and no width. I am sure that with Kuyt and Downing he will comeback.

C`MON TORRES, GOLDEN BOOT WINNER!

Haters gonna hate...

:ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:

[Stingray 9,441]

Dont worry, Benitez will get him back...THIS:

:ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:Torres to score a hatrick on Sunday, I am feeling it. I am absolutely positive he will thrive under Rafa. Carlo, AVB and RDM are not up to his standard.

It is all Mazacar`s fault, no linkup play and no width. I am sure that with Kuyt and Downing he will comeback.

I would be overjoyed if by any miracle Torres morphed into the player he once was.

I fear the reason for his downfall however is nowhere related to lack of linkup play (facts?) or even because the 'coach' is not up to Torres' standard. That is quite an assumption you put forth there :-)

Evidence seems to falsify your comment: if you go beyond opinion, facts and stats are all that you can rely on and they are ALL in contradiction with your statements.

The only variable in the last years of changing suppliers, play systems and managers IS Torres. And he is a stable variable: the sucky kind.

So: Torres is a liability, not an opportunity (except maybe for getting Rafa fired)

Greetz.

[Rmpr 8,977]

@Stingray, it was an absolute sarcastic post.

[Stingray 9,441]

@Stingray, it was an absolute sarcastic post.

Lol! Fuck, you got me going there, mate :-) I so believed that shit :-) ouch

[Kinol 337]

I dont want to speculate in the question that Torres got RDM sacked etc but, for me, one thing is sure. That if we would have got rid of Torres, who clearly showed that he would never become useful, in the summer and get a new striker, we would never be in the situation we are right now. Im 1000% of that

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

So it's Torres' fault that the club decided to go into a new season with one striker who has zero confidence and no sort of form, and one striker who can't even be trusted to play the right-wing role let alone at centre forward? The board took a gamble on Torres being able to perform as the main striker and it hasn't paid off, who's fault is that?

This is what happens when people believe what's written in the Daily Mail.

there you go focusing on only one line in my post. Just becuase i say Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked you think i envision him going up to Roman and saying fire RDM for benching me. If thats the case then i feel sorry for you.

If you looked at my earlier posts you'd see i critize ROMAN for placing Torres above the club, and refrain from calling "the board" the "board" anymore, for they are a bunch of clowns having a ball up there. but nope you wouldn't know that now would you. Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked, everything revolves around how he feels, plays, acts, talks etc etc.

and lastly, you think i got time to read the Daily Fail and believe their articles, i havent read any of their articles regarding the RDM sacking but nope, you would know if i have huh? consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance. might aswell call me a socialist now because i share many of the same views as Obama why don't you.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

there you go focusing on only one line in my post. Just becuase i say Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked you think i envision him going up to Roman and saying fire RDM for benching me. If thats the case then i feel sorry for you.

If you looked at my earlier posts you'd see i critize ROMAN for placing Torres above the club, and refrain from calling "the board" the "board" anymore, for they are a bunch of clowns having a ball up there. but nope you wouldn't know that now would you. Torres is a major reason for RDM being sacked, everything revolves around how he feels, plays, acts, talks etc etc.

and lastly, you think i got time to read the Daily Fail and believe their articles, i havent read any of their articles regarding the RDM sacking but nope, you would know if i have huh? consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance. might aswell call me a socialist now because i share many of the same views as Obama why don't you.

at that reply. Funny that you have a go at me for putting words in your mouth yet you've done exactly the same thing.

consider this the last post in our discussion becasue i don't got time for your ignorance.

Right, you just have the time to type out that reply. Isn't that convenient?

[ja1 1,166]

Very worried now that Torres will start regardless until Rafa has gone.