Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Can't raise your hands and you certainly cannot scratch people.It's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Intentionally ? Try again, but pay attention, this time. He jumped for the ball. His hand may have touched his face, but in the heat of it, it´s clueless to say he had done it on purpose.Wrong incident. You're talking about the one where he got wrongly the second yellow. The incident where he might get a 3 match ban for is the one where he scratched Vertongen's face after the ref had blown for a foul at the start of the second half.The most common thing is to actually handle a 3 match ban in total, just like if he was given a straight red...But the two are not related. He will get a one match ban for getting two yellows. We can't appeal that, even if it was the wrong call. The one that he might get 3 extra matches for is the scratch that the ref says he didn't see. So the FA steps in and if they decide it was violent conduct, he directly gets a 3 match ban unless they decide it merits more. I don't think a two match ban is an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 May I suggest to watch the video, closely.The video evidence showing there was no contact with Vertog´s face in the incident.However, Torres has no right to appeal under fucking FA rules. Once again, idiotic decision is applied by FA. Full of manures.If we talking about two different....one thing leads to another. Him being a Chelsea player the FA cunts will be more than happy to ban Torres as long as they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Bushman your aren't reading properly again.AAAARGGGHHHHHHHH!!! kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Played well in his last three games should start in europe. The only striker in the world who is on form but still doesn't score goals. A mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Fernando Torres vs Tottenham Away HD 720phttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFhHeUNY4jkApologies if its a repost!! PS:And i still can't properly embed a youtube video!!watching this vid just after watching Mata's vid from the same match not only Fernando got involved twice more than Mata, but he was definitely more incisive and dangerous for us. Definitely the MOTM for me (I voted on him just after the match but this vid especially seen after Mata's makes it crystal clear).I hope he carries on form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 May I suggest to watch the video, closely.The video evidence showing there was no contact with Vertog´s face in the incident.However, Torres has no right to appeal under fucking FA rules. Once again, idiotic decision is applied by FA. Full of manures.If we talking about two different....one thing leads to another. Him being a Chelsea player the FA cunts will be more than happy to ban Torres as long as they can.Let's try a picture since you don't seem to actually be reading what everyone is writing:That is violent conduct and therefor a 3 match ban. You are right, though, he should not have been given a second yellow card, but it is FA rules that you cannot appeal yellow cards. It has nothing to do with Chelsea or united. It's the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Bushman your aren't reading properly again.AAAARGGGHHHHHHHH!!!We were talking about...? Never mind, confusion all around ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Let's try a picture since you don't seem to actually be reading what everyone is writing:That is violent conduct and therefor a 3 match ban. You are right, though, he should not have been given a second yellow card, but it is FA rules that you cannot appeal yellow cards. It has nothing to do with Chelsea or united. It's the rules. Let me offer an apology... CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 No point appealing if he does get the 4 matches as that can lead to more.Accept etc.Though does seem to be paper talk at the moment so who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 a scratch which didnt draw blood ... so much fuss about so little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It isn't malicious enough to warrant a 4 game ban sorry. If he's going to get banned for that then Vertonghen should be suspended as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 a scratch which didnt draw blood ... so much fuss about so littleThis isn't boxing! It isn't malicious enough to warrant a 4 game ban sorry. If he's going to get banned for that then Vertonghen should be suspended as well.It's not 4 it's 3 plus the one match suspension he already has for 2 yellow cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Vertoghen conned against us in that play and strip an Aston Villa's player trying (and failing) to prevent him from scoring. If anything he's showed much less fair play than Torres did, as what Fernando did is more about lack of fair play/respect than violence. The pictures make it much worse than the video does. Fernando touched him for a second - something stupid - but much less unfair and dishonest than taking a player's clothes off and pretending to have been hit in the face.I can accept if Fernando get a ban (although I disagree) but the FA will have to have some cojones to not do anything about Vertoghen as well. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's not about being violent enough bitch slapping an opponent is also a 3 match ban and it won't leave scratches unless you have a pimp ring on the finger. When you place your hand on an opposition player's face you're asking for trouble - if Vertonghen had done a Busquets and rolled about Torres could have been send off without even scratching him. It was an act of stupidity and if an opposition player had done it and not gotten send off I'd be livid and fuming. wj818 and Coop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Vertoghen conned against us in that play and strip an Aston Villa's player trying (and failing) to prevent him from scoring. If anything he's showed much less fair play than Torres did, as what Fernando did is more about lack of fair play/respect than violence. The pictures make it much worse than the video does. Fernando touched him for a second - something stupid - but much less unfair and dishonest than taking a player's clothes off and pretending to have been hit in the face.I can accept if Fernando get a ban (although I disagree) but the FA will have to have some cojones to not do anything about Vertoghen as well.I agree in principle, it is not fair. But the ref saw Vertongen take the Villa players short off while Mike Dean did not see Torres scratch Vertongen so the FA will have to look into the Torres incident and not the Vertongen case. There is also no retrospective punishment for dives so Vertongen gets away with his play acting. It's not fair, but it's the rules. But all that would have been irrelevant if Torres didn't raise his hands to Vertongen's face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Bleh stupid moment of madness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 you know what I just realized. That cunt Mike Dean says he didn't see Torres scratching Jan... then why did he give Torres a yellow for the event in the first place? if he had only seen both players slapping each other, he should either have ignored it or should have give a yellow to both.So what does he claim to have seen in the fight that warranted a yellow only for Torres if he supposedly didn't see the scratch?He can suck my arse - pardon my language - but the one thing he should report that he hasn't seen is that Vertoghen acted being hit in the face when he wasn't.The more I read and think about this whole situation the more pissed I am and if Torres is banned I'll be even more enraged. This is fucking ridiculous!!!!!!I agree in principle, it is not fair. But the ref saw Vertongen take the Villa players short off while Mike Dean did not see Torres scratch Vertongen so the FA will have to look into the Torres incident and not the Vertongen case. There is also no retrospective punishment for dives so Vertongen gets away with his play acting. It's not fair, but it's the rules. But all that would have been irrelevant if Torres didn't raise his hands to Vertongen's face. then I say the rules are stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I agree in principle, it is not fair. But the ref saw Vertongen take the Villa players short off while Mike Dean did not see Torres scratch Vertongen so the FA will have to look into the Torres incident and not the Vertongen case. There is also no retrospective punishment for dives so Vertongen gets away with his play acting. Well in that case, since Torres got a yellow card for the incident we're talking about (if I remember well enough) it means the referee did see it, and it means that retrospective action can't be taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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