🇪🇸 Fernando Torres

[Las7 951]

and that is fair. so lets just take THIS YEAR. and the TEAM'S PERFORMANCE.

eto'o or torres.

not even a question.

you cannot be blind to the fact that the team plays with more fluidity when torres is in the starting XI.

It's what Torres fanboys say every year; than his form ends up in the gutter and we end up being where we were to begin with.

1st 14 matches for Torres - finally scores a goal against relegation bound Westham.

1st full season - starts well, gets sent off against Swansea fails to score in next 24 hours of football, ends up with only 6 goals in the League

2nd full season - starts ok, ends up with only 8 goals in the League

Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League

[hjperdeath 2,226]

It's what Torres fanboys say every year; than his form ends up in the gutter and we end up being where we were to begin with.

1st 14 matches for Torres - finally scores a goal against relegation bound Westham.

1st full season - starts well, gets sent off against Swansea fails to score in next 24 hours of football, ends up with only 6 goals in the League

2nd full season - starts ok, ends up with only 8 goals in the League

Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League

Pretty dissapointing such statements are made, yes he's bad, but comparing him to Mikel who scored one goal? Wow. Just sad what's happened to footballing 'fans' .

[Las7 951]

Pretty dissapointing such statements are made, yes he's bad, but comparing him to Mikel who scored one goal? Wow. Just sad what's happened to footballing 'fans' .

You are right, Mikel has been integral to us winning major trophies it's an insult to compare him to Torres who has been integral in winning a corner

I'm sorry to insult you Obi, after all you've outscored Eto'o; Torres and Ba's combined tally in the EPL this season

[hjperdeath 2,226]

You are right, Mikel has been integral to us winning major trophies it's an insult to compare him to Torres who has been integral in winning a corner

I'm sorry to insult you Obi, after all you've outscored Eto'o; Torres and Ba's combined tally in the EPL this season

The amount of sarcasm you are using isn't proving anything. I'm in no way saying that Torres is a terrific player and deserves to start ahead of Eto'o or Obi is the best CDM in the world.

But the fact that you use a statement like Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League is absolutely cringe worthy.

[Las7 951]

The amount of sarcasm you are using isn't proving anything. I'm in no way saying that Torres is a terrific player and deserves to start ahead of Eto'o or Obi is the best CDM in the world.

But the fact that you use a statement like Since the start of the 2013 Torres has as many goals as Mikel in the League is absolutely cringe worthy.

Stating the truth is cringe worthy?

Torres has played 987 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal; Mikel has played 609 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal. Mikel has better minutes per goal average than Torres in the League in 2013 as well

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Stating the truth is cringe worthy?

Torres has played 987 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal; Mikel has played 609 minutes in the EPL since the start of the year and scored ONE goal.

So you are telling me that Mikel, a defensive midfielder is better than a striker after 8 games into the season... ? wow. absolutely brilliant. do go on.

By your logic why not compare Tim Howard to Cech. Tim Howard has scored ONE goal in x number of minutes, Cech on the other hand has ZERO goals in xxxxxx number of minutes.

This is the truth? No. This is why aliens won't talk to us.

[haranr 485]

FUCK TORRES. HE IS NOT A GOOD FOOTBALLER AND THAT'S IT. HE IS GOT ONE OF THE WORST TECHNIQUES IN THE EPL.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Torres plays an above average game against Swindon (it wasnt even a great game), and people already ask that he becomes our main striker again...

Eto'o >>>>>> Torres

Eto'o has had three starts against Basel, Everton and Fulham and had one shot on target. Torres has made three starts against Bayern Munich, Swindon and Hull City - four shots on target, two goals, and an assist. His performances - particularly against Bayern - are far, far superior to what Eto'o has offered. That's why we're saying Torres should be the main striker at this moment in time. Goalscoring is about confidence, and two goals in three games is an excellent return from anyone.

[Styles 9,790]

People still falling for this fraud. His goal required a tap-in from two yards into an open goal.

Torres had two very good chances one on one with the keeper and as expected he fluffed them, yet he's in great form and should be our CF!

The sheer amount of excuses made for this guy is hilarious. For three years he keeps being given a chance but Eto'o is written off after three games and people hated Ba before he even signed!

[Tomo 21,751]

and that is fair. so lets just take THIS YEAR. and the TEAM'S PERFORMANCE.

eto'o or torres.

not even a question.

you cannot be blind to the fact that the team plays with more fluidity when torres is in the starting XI.

Actually i think Eto'o has done fine, Everton we played well, and the thing is while he hasn't been amazing, he gets involved in play a lot more than Torres does, Nish posted something is Eto'o's thread backing that up.

Torres may have done ok against Bayern and Swindon, but Hull he was awful, one touch in the penalty area for a forward, one.

Im amazed at the writing off on Eto'o after 3 games, when it took over a year for Torres to get the critics he deserved.

[Styles 9,790]

Actually i think Eto'o has done fine, Everton we played well, and the thing is while he hasn't been amazing, he gets involved in play a lot more than Torres does, Nish posted something is Eto'o's thread backing that up.

Torres may have done ok against Bayern and Swindon, but Hull he was awful, one touch in the penalty area for a forward, one.

Im amazed at the writing off on Eto'o after 3 games, when it took over a year for Torres to get the critics he deserved.

Eto'o has been fine. He is getting up to speed but he still looks a much better player than Torres. Technically the difference between the two is night and day.

I know who I trust not to disappear and contribute more over the course of the season.

[Tomo 21,751]

People still falling for this fraud. His goal required a tap-in from two yards into an open goal.

Torres had two very good chances one on one with the keeper and as expected he fluffed them, yet he's in great form and should be our CF!

The sheer amount of excuses made for this guy is hilarious. For three years he keeps being given a chance but Eto'o is written off after three games and people hated Ba before he even signed!

Amazing isn't it, Drogba in his first two season's was getting hounded and sometimes booed despite playing well and giving a lot to the team, yet that wasn't good enough, Torres on the other hand is having another one off these mini spells were he is looking something off a footballer, and here we go again.

[Styles 9,790]

Amazing isn't it, Drogba in his first two season's was getting hounded and sometimes booed despite playing well and giving a lot to the team, yet that wasn't good enough, Torres on the other hand is having another one off these mini spells were he is looking something off a footballer, and here we go again.

Honestly, it makes you think there is something more sinister about the treatment Torres gets as opposed to Drogba, Eto'o, Ba etc doesn't it? I mean how else could you possibly explain the completely different attitudes towards them?

If only they had blond hair

[Tomo 21,751]

Honestly, it makes you think there is something more sinister about the treatment Torres gets as opposed to Drogba, Eto'o, Ba etc doesn't it? I mean how else could you possibly explain the completely different attitudes towards them?

If only they had blond hair

or cost 50 big one's

[didierforever 7,349]

seriously cant believe what i read here. i mean people quoting stats for torres. where were these stats when danny boy was on the bench for 3 months while torres spent a nice vacation on various grounds all over england and europe.

thank god that jose has already decided on etoo as his no. 1.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

seriously cant believe what i read here. i mean people quoting stats for torres. where were these stats when danny boy was on the bench for 3 months while torres spent a nice vacation on various grounds all over england and europe.

thank god that jose has already decided on etoo as his no. 1.

I seriously doubt Eto'o is Mour's number 1. He definitely made efforts to make him our no.1 after all the starts he got and Eto'o doesn't look sharp.

Now we can expect an array of starts for Torres to see how that works. If he impresses and scores a few, he's gonna be our main man.

[Tomo 21,751]

seriously cant believe what i read here. i mean people quoting stats for torres. where were these stats when danny boy was on the bench for 3 months while torres spent a nice vacation on various grounds all over england and europe.

thank god that jose has already decided on etoo as his no. 1.

He just needs more service.

If we sign Alonso, Mascerano and Gerrard next summer Torres will be scoring everygame, they played with him at his peak, they will know what to do.

[didierforever 7,349]

I seriously doubt Eto'o is he Mour's number 1. He definitely made efforts to make him our no.1 after all the starts he got and Eto'o doesn't look sharp.

Now we can expect an array of starts for Torres to see how that works. If he impresses and scores a few, he's gonna be our main man.

u answered your own question. etoo dint look sharp. he needs game time. his workrate is really good. link up play is good too. does not lose half as many balls as torres. what etoo needs right now is a run in the team. and i am sure mou is gonna do exactly that.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

u answered your own question. etoo dint look sharp. he needs game time. his workrate is really good. link up play is good too. does not lose half as many balls as torres. what etoo needs right now is a run in the team. and i am sure mou is gonna do exactly that.

He already got that run and it was a failed experiment. Now its Torres turn and for all i know, he's gonna impress.

Moreover Torres' work rate and link up play are better than Eto'o's for that matter. Both strikers lacks the finishing touch but Torres seems to have sorted that out.

[Barbara 15,149]

I think credit is due here.

Torres has showed better form this season. Is it enough? No. Does it erase the past two and a half seasons? No. Does he continue to show he can be appalling technically? Yes. But we can't deny he's showed improvement. We can cry and moan about the last 30 months he played for us, but that's all that is. Moping.

Now it's a new year and while I don't expect him to be better than Eto'o and I don't expect him to regain his best form, I'm also happy that he's improved. He's been improving since arriving here. It's just that his form is so abysmal that the constant and small improvement curve he's showed since arriving isn't enough. But his second season was better than the first and he's off to a better start in this one.

So I understand people who want him to get chances, but I also see where people who want him in the bench are coming from. This is Mata 2.0 except the opposite. People are using the last two years to back up why they should or shouldn't be in the team and are mostly ignoring what they did show this season. As Mata is a fan favorite (deservedly) his current form should be ignored - or he should be given more minutes and start more matches to improve his form. With Torres is the opposite. Although he's showing progress compared to his own standards and despite still missing sitters (something that isn't that much uncommon for strikers, although Torres can be embarrassing) people think because of his historic he shouldn't be given the same minutes and the same starts because they don't trust him. although he could use both things to carry on his progress.

Eto'o is going through a transitional time right now and it's more than expected - especially on his age and after spending 2 years in such a low-demanding league - that he struggles in the beginning. The right thing for me is to have one playing in the weekend and the other playing in the midweek games, so we can develop and improve both because at the end of the day the more players on good form we have, the better. I don't think Torres will ever be great for us - I didn't believe it on January 31, 2011, I don't believe now. But I do believe he can be useful and I honestly think he's been our best striker so far in the few games he took part (while probably being the worst in some moments of the same matches). He is the only one of the four that have played for us that actually scored (while still with us), or did I miss something?

A little bit of support for a Chelsea FC player doesn't hurt, even if we don't have any faith on him.