termninja 5,290 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fernando TorresUsed to be a great football player. At one point of time the best striker in the world, or at least one of the best. However career depends not only on talent, but also decisions that players make. And his decisions:-in the summer of 2007 he went to Liverpool which has a history of running their strikers into the ground (Fowler, Owen and now Torres). They often didn't give him time to recover from injuries but still he signed a contract extension in 2009, only to watch the departure of some of the best teammates afterwards. Then Liverpool's decline began, also Torres's. Players were sold , replacements were poor. Then came 2010, big injury and World cup. He wanted to leave. So he left.- IN the winter of 2011 he went to Chelsea which has a history of buying high priced strikers who flop (Sheva, Mutu, Kezman, etc). In the club that was already going trough a transition, that needed an overhual not in CF department, that doesn't play high tempo football he needs, where manager didn't want him, where some of his teammates, who played alongside him for the first six months, didn't want him. He never got a proper chance here, with proper players around him. No one can deny that. AVB didn't help him. Now it's too late for him. Damage's already been done.- If he only chose Man Utd in the summer of 2007... His career would probably have been different. Perhaps he would be better, less limited player. But...Too many bad decisions rarely have ​​a good outcome.He deserved better , but he should have thought better. I've known that since January, but it still makes me sad. Why I had to watch his downfall in my favourite club. That bothers me the most.For those that wanted Torres from 2008/2009. That Torres had:- teammates who wanted to play with him, who didn't ignore him- good passers behind him- high tempo football and midfield that suited him ( or to most strikers)- manager who wanted him and believed in him- 8 scoring chances per game and the knowledge if he misses one, others will come- players who were at their prime while playing with himOf course after 2009 everything fell apart, but anyway, what from things above Torres had here?You make Serbia proud baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Nevin 24 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/2011/09/premiership/abysmal-anti-chelsea-press-have-twisted-torres-quotes Apols if already posted elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran. 6,317 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why are there two Torres threads? Confusing..One is for transfer speculation, another is just his player page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 actually his form started to drop, before Benitez left..18 league goals in 22 games (20 starts), 22 in 32 overall in his last season for Benetiz. I wish we had that kind of dropped form at Chelsea. Because of injuries, he wasn't consistently the best striker in the world, but he had his moments. He would get injured, recover and come back, get injured, recover and come back, etc. He never should have rushed back from his surgery in January 2010. He suffered the same injury 3 months later and it's ruined everything ever since. nofreakingway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 - manager who wanted him and believed in himBenetiz and Torres actually had a pretty cagey relationship and Torres has said they never had a conversation that wasn't about football. And Benetiz would criticize him in the papers when Torres would get distracted by running feuds with refs and players. To Torres' credit, he accepted the criticism--in public anyway. Sid Lowe reported that by the end, Torres was pretty ambivalent about Benetiz staying at Liverpool. But the overwhelming dynamic in the relationship was that Torres was Benetiz' number one striker no matter what. Torres also had the same dynamic at Atletico. Benetiz rotated but Torres knew he was #1 and he would be picked for the most important games. Obviously as Torres got more injured, he really wasn't rotated as he would just play whenever he was semi-healthy or had a pulse really.And it's not just about starting the games, there were plenty of games when Torres would be left in to play even if he hadn't done much because Benetiz believed Torres had a better chance of stealing a goal than any of his other strikers. Remember the game where he got two very late goals against Chelsea? A 0-0 game was 2-0 within minutes. nofreakingway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 the sad thing about Torres not being the Torres we need is that he knows he not living up to what we expect of him and hes trying to hard to get that goal and its making him play poorly... I think if he can just relax and let the game come to him he will gain back his confidence and start to put away the chances he does get.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yeah, but it's human nature. He's basically under the gun to score a goal every game he's in now...whether it's one minute on the pitch or all 90. Hard to relax when you're under that kind pressure. nofreakingway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 http://www.footballtransfertavern.com/2011/09/premiership/abysmal-anti-chelsea-press-have-twisted-torres-quotes Apols if already posted elsewhere. good piece there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanAdibi! 106 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Fernando TorresUsed to be a great football player. At one point of time the best striker in the world, or at least one of the best. However career depends not only on talent, but also decisions that players make. And his decisions:-in the summer of 2007 he went to Liverpool which has a history of running their strikers into the ground (Fowler, Owen and now Torres). They often didn't give him time to recover from injuries but still he signed a contract extension in 2009, only to watch the departure of some of the best teammates afterwards. Then Liverpool's decline began, also Torres's. Players were sold , replacements were poor. Then came 2010, big injury and World cup. He wanted to leave. So he left.- IN the winter of 2011 he went to Chelsea which has a history of buying high priced strikers who flop (Sheva, Mutu, Kezman, etc). In the club that was already going trough a transition, that needed an overhual not in CF department, that doesn't play high tempo football he needs, where manager didn't want him, where some of his teammates, who played alongside him for the first six months, didn't want him. He never got a proper chance here, with proper players around him. No one can deny that. AVB didn't help him. Now it's too late for him. Damage's already been done.- If he only chose Man Utd in the summer of 2007... His career would probably have been different. Perhaps he would be better, less limited player. But...Too many bad decisions rarely have ​​a good outcome.He deserved better , but he should have thought better. I've known that since January, but it still makes me sad. Why I had to watch his downfall in my favourite club. That bothers me the most.For those that wanted Torres from 2008/2009. That Torres had:- teammates who wanted to play with him, who didn't ignore him- good passers behind him- high tempo football and midfield that suited him ( or to most strikers)- manager who wanted him and believed in him- 8 scoring chances per game and the knowledge if he misses one, others will come- players who were at their prime while playing with himOf course after 2009 everything fell apart, but anyway, what from things above Torres had here?Nice post. I think AVB has realised that and this is why he had bought Mata to fasten things up a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Milan, Juventus and Inter tracking Chelsea flop Torres...http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1091/08/ac-milan-juventus-and-inter-milan-tracking-chelsea-flop-torres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Torres with two assists today..he played more relaxed as i called for and he did very well today..let have him keep kicking on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 He really did need a break. He looked sharper today since Stoke, just needs that little confidence boost. Hopefully the assists will be the final paragraph needed in the article to help him publish the goods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 He really did need a break. He looked sharper today since Stoke, just needs that little confidence boost. Hopefully the assists will be the final paragraph needed in the article to help him publish the goods!thought he was class today ,,,even without scoring nofreakingway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Yeah so unlucky not to score but still great performance from him and looked so happy! Hopfully boost he needs and can carry on being confident and trying and doing what he's doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lentherussian 86 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 torres certainly doesnt deserve criticism after that performance but hes hardly answered his critics. Step in right direction thouh. Whod play him against man utd? I think i would but am 50/50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Good for him. Hope he truly realises the importance of his contribution, as they were both very good assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCFC 357 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two nice assists. Well done Nando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 torres certainly doesnt deserve criticism after that performance but hes hardly answered his critics. Step in right direction thouh. Whod play him against man utd? I think i would but am 50/50I wouldn't if Drogba was fit.But he won't be, so I'd like to see the same front 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleO 192 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Finally a good performance by Torres!! Keep the faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Mata and Sturridge could be a deadly combination for Man Ure's full-backs, and i think we should play Raul and Ramires no matter what! David Luiz has to play because we need some speed to help break down any of the attacks that might start in the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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