HRiver 1,512 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I don't get it, why on earth do the fans and Carlo think that Drogba and Torres can't play together? Drogba is an all rounder, we didn't see him as a typical centre forward today - he was running all the time and you could see him everywhere. He was passing, assisting, crossing, and he was creating space for his team-mates too. I don't see a problem with them both starting on Wednesday. Carlo can play the same line-up against Birmingham, but with Torres instead of Kalou, and maybe include Benayoun too. If not as a starter, then bring him on earlier in the second half than today. He and Torres both deserved more playing time today definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Shame on Carlo for only giving him 9 minutes.Jesus christ... We were winning 3-1 for fuck sake. BLionheart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Maybe Nando was tired after the amazing effort on Old Trafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I don't get it, why on earth do the fans and Carlo think that Drogba and Torres can't play together? Drogba is an all rounder, we didn't see him as a typical centre forward today - he was running all the time and you could see him everywhere. He was passing, assisting, crossing, and he was creating space for his team-mates too. I don't see a problem with them both starting on Wednesday. Carlo can play the same line-up against Birmingham, but with Torres instead of Kalou, and maybe include Benayoun too. If not as a starter, then bring him on earlier in the second half than today. He and Torres both deserved more playing time today definitely.Maybe Kalou is willing to track back and help? Seems to me that when Torres and Drogba play together, there's a disconnect to the midfield and they struggle because the team's essentially got two center forwards who don't really come back and help. BLionheart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Shame on Carlo for only giving him 9 minutes.Jesus christ... We were winning 3-1 for fuck sake.Agreed.Maybe Kalou is willing to track back and help? Seems to me that when Torres and Drogba play together, there's a disconnect to the midfield and they struggle because the team's essentially got two center forwards who don't really come back and help.But Kalou played as a centre forward today, so I would see no problem with both Drogba and Torres getting involved at the same time.Drogba - MaloudaTorres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Maybe Carlo know's he's gone so he doesn't care anymore about Roman's toy. Who knows. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I believe Torres will be in the starting XI against Birmingham, as he was on the bench today. OR Carlo will give him the nod at Old Trafford again, which is bloody much more difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Listen, I get it. Fernando is off form. And I'm not suggesting starting him over Drogba. But why not alongside him? I honestly don't see how it benefits anyone, club or player, to keep him benched. Just when does he get to play his way into form then? Btw, I completely disagree that he is worse than Anelka. I see more effort from Torres than Anelka these days.So what is this, the second disallowed goal for Fernando then? He just can't catch a break can he? For the measly ten minutes he was given, he almost scored. Pity that won't be what the papers are talking about tomorrow though.Our best formation, and what has always worked is 4-3-3 everyone knows that....Drogba cannot perform best anywhere but CF and Torres is CF, therefore unless we change the whole formation which has been tried and failed, then thats the only way they can play together. We have no natural width when we play in a 4-4-2 and we get over run in the middle. It doesn't benefit the player being benched, but in my opinion it benefits the team no doubt. why have an under-performing player, playing? Thats no benefit. Yes it should have been allowed today, but i can garentee you if he starts the scoreline would not have been 1-3. I didn't see the game, but how pivotal was Drogs? If you're saying play them together, again thats a formation change, the scoreline wouldn't have been 1-3. We would have struggled, just like we do everytime we play a 4-4-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 I believe Torres will be in the starting XI against Birmingham, as he was on the bench today. OR Carlo will give him the nod at Old Trafford again, which is bloody much more difficult Drogba must be starter in last 8 matches in EPL, he is much much better then Torres, or maybe put them together.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Kid: Mom there is a stranger in the house.Mom: Don't worry it's Fernando Torres, he won't do anything.fucking pathetic :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNinoSemper 18 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Our best formation, and what has always worked is 4-3-3 everyone knows that....Drogba cannot perform best anywhere but CF and Torres is CF, therefore unless we change the whole formation which has been tried and failed, then thats the only way they can play together. We have no natural width when we play in a 4-4-2 and we get over run in the middle. It doesn't benefit the player being benched, but in my opinion it benefits the team no doubt. why have an under-performing player, playing? Thats no benefit. Yes it should have been allowed today, but i can garentee you if he starts the scoreline would not have been 1-3. I didn't see the game, but how pivotal was Drogs? If you're saying play them together, again thats a formation change, the scoreline wouldn't have been 1-3. We would have struggled, just like we do everytime we play a 4-4-2Don't agree with you. Don't believe 4-3-3 is the only formation we can play. Today Kalou played as a center forward didn't he? So why not Torres? As far as not playing under performing players, what about Malouda, Lampard, Essien even? They've hardly set the world on fire with their respective forms in recent months. Or what about when Drogba was under performing? Or is it only Torres that should be given this 'special treatment'?I think you're looking at things very narrowly. Benching the out of form player now might be a short term solution but in the long term is no solution at all. Again, I bring up the Man U./Rooney comparison. Torres is here for five years, how long do you think Drogba is here for? Their Chelsea careers are going to overlap so the club must make it a priority to get them gelling. How many ninety minute games have they played together? Hell, how many ninety minute matches has Torres played? There's been precious little time for them to connect on the field so we really have no idea what formation can work with both of them. A game like this against a struggling side with a poor defence would have been an ideal time to really give their partnership a go I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismada9 1,948 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 How childish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElNinoSemper 18 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Liverpool fans are still so butthurt about his departure. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicrico 175 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Don't agree with you. Don't believe 4-3-3 is the only formation we can play. Today Kalou played as a center forward didn't he? So why not Torres? As far as not playing under performing players, what about Malouda, Lampard, Essien even? They've hardly set the world on fire with their respective forms in recent months. Or what about when Drogba was under performing? Or is it only Torres that should be given this 'special treatment'?I think you're looking at things very narrowly. Benching the out of form player now might be a short term solution but in the long term is no solution at all. Again, I bring up the Man U./Rooney comparison. Torres is here for five years, how long do you think Drogba is here for? Their Chelsea careers are going to overlap so the club must make it a priority to get them gelling. How many ninety minute games have they played together? Hell, how many ninety minute matches has Torres played? There's been precious little time for them to connect on the field so we really have no idea what formation can work with both of them. A game like this against a struggling side with a poor defence would have been an ideal time to really give their partnership a go I thought.4-3-3 isn't the only formation we can play. It's the one that works. FACT. whenever we have won the title what have we played? 4-3-3. Two wingers, big man up top. Anelka usually plays wide aswel. We haven't got another essien,lampard or malouda though have we? We haven't got performing midfielders to shove in there. We have striker wise. When Drogba was under performing we didn't have many other options. He is our best striker and a match winner. Rooney is different kettle though, he was out of form and found his feet himself. No matter what you say, I understand peoples love for Torres, I really do. But I honestly believe he looks rubbish and until he performs then I won't change my opinion. That free kick when they slid it to him and he scuffed it completely....how many "world class" strikers miss the ball completely? He came on and had chances, I watched highlights on MOTD and you can be as bias as you like but its obvious how bad the guy is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortilla9 390 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 (edited) Guillem Balague on Talksport 4/18/1130 minutes. Love or hate him, Guillem hears a lot of information. Had the Torres transfer spot on and got bashed from Liverpool fans for it.1. Torres talk at the very beginning2. 12-13 minutes - talk about Redknapp at Chelsea, Benitez, Torres (gist of - want a manager who will make Torres better and that is counter-attacking football, Torres does not play best in beautiful football) 3. 28 minute - Chelsea to spend more in summer How long was this interview? Found the talk about Torres and Drogba:http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/listen-again/episode/283392030-2100 - 24:14 talk about Torres and Drogba Edited April 19, 2011 by Tortilla9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The big question in world football today is: will Torres ever score for Chelsea ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The big question in world football today is: will Torres ever score for Chelsea ?The big question should be When will the media shut the fuck up! chrismada9 and BlueLion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 The big question should be When will the media shut the fuck up!When he scores a goal? That means he has to play? But he can't if he's not scoring goals...vicious...circle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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