The Benitez Thread

[didierforever 7,349]

Bollocks.

give me any instance showing otherwise. an instance which shows roman has respected "chelsea" the club and its players (past and present) which was and is. roman's decisions might be good for a club, but those decisions would have been good for any club any where in the club. but for "chelsea" he definitely gives shit.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

This is a trainwreck.

We could have lost the CWC with RDM if we just had to. We stand no chance at winning the Europa with Benitez and this squad....even if we took it serious.

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give me any instance showing otherwise. an instance which shows roman has respected "chelsea" the club and its players (past and present) which was and is. roman's decisions might be good for a club, but those decisions would have been good for any club any where in the club. but for "chelsea" he definitely gives shit.

The first player he tried to sign.

The hiring of Di Matteo as assistant.

His relationship with Bobby Campbell.

[termninja 5,290]

Chill down fellas, look at his loss from a bright side. We don't wanna be stuck with Rafa doing good and Mourinho and Guardiola both available in the summer...
If Benitez keeps doing badly, he will be sacked and we will pursue one of the two mentioned above with all our might, and when Romans wants something, Romans gets it.

Really retarded we lost today...idiotic. Blame falls on everyone, but a big part goes on Rafa. I dunno what is he like behind the scenes and how he interacts with players, but from what I've seen, he couldn't lift them up today and even Frank was on the pitch...

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Roman sacked the manager who won us the CL. Nothing Benitez does or could have done in last few weeks would have made his job permanent if Guardiola or Jose showed interest

[didierforever 7,349]

The first player he tried to sign.

The hiring of Di Matteo as assistant.

His relationship with Bobby Campbell.

dude seriously, 3 instances? OUT OF ONE IS SELF DESTRUCTIVE. btw how does jurgen take a part in this or who are u talking about. because as far i remember jurgen macho was the first buy of roman era but definitely dont remember the 1st player he "tried" to sign.

anyways do actually believe what u r arguing for? do u think roman sees torres as nothin other than a 50mil investment out of which he wants to get something, otherwise i cant fathom a reason y any club in this world let alone the european champions with the desire to win the CL and PL again would have that blonde as their only striker for atleast half a season. and this is just one thing. i dont even wanna go into the rdm sacking, letting DD go, jose leaving the club because of ego clash with him etc.

i dont see anythin wrong in the statement "hutcho_cfc" had written.

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dude seriously, 3 instances? OUT OF ONE IS SELF DESTRUCTIVE. btw how does jurgen take a part in this or who are u talking about. because as far i remember jurgen macho was the first buy of roman era but definitely dont remember the 1st player he "tried" to sign.

anyways do actually believe what u r arguing for? do u think roman sees torres as nothin other than a 50mil investment out of which he wants to get something, otherwise i cant fathom a reason y any club in this world let alone the european champions with the desire to win the CL and PL again would have that blonde as their only striker for atleast half a season. and this is just one thing. i dont even wanna go into the rdm sacking, letting DD go, jose leaving the club because of ego clash with him etc.

i dont see anythin wrong in the statement "hutcho_cfc" had written.

To be fair, you only asked for one instance.

The first player Roman tried to buy was Zola. I believe he cares about the club and it's history, as well as it's future. In fact I know he does.

Torres is a £50 million investment. It's hard to just right that type of asset off without trying everything, and letting DD go was the right decision all round in my opinion. He's a Chelsea legend who went out in the best way possible.

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When is he going to cut this 'positives' crap from his post-match press conferences?

''Against a good team we had four clear chances, you don't normally see that many in a final, so that means a lot.

'For some players coming back, like Frank Lampard, it will be an improvement on his match fitness. For others, it will be a good experience; they will know what it's like to play against a strong South American team and to play in another continent with a different atmosphere.''

wow four chances. I'd be expecting at least that with Mata, Hazard and Oscar in midfield. Lampard gaining match fitness and playing in a different atmosphere- if that isn't clutching at straws for positives I don't know what is.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

That moment when Chelsea are like "fuck this shit, we'll try when Spring comes around"

[didierforever 7,349]

To be fair, you only asked for one instance.

The first player Roman tried to buy was Zola. I believe he cares about the club and it's history, as well as it's future. In fact I know he does.

Torres is a £50 million investment. It's hard to just right that type of asset off without trying everything, and letting DD go was the right decision all round in my opinion. He's a Chelsea legend who went out in the best way possible.

dude dont troll me, we let zola go out as a "free agent" in the same summer roman came in. infact zola went from chelsea on 2 july 2003 to be absolutely precise, so u r absolutely wrong about it unless i have lost my mind completely and dont remember a thing. anyways u right about him caring for the club's future(short term to be precise) but not about its past. and we were not ready for life without DD and its showing. if roman had not been so hell bent on torres he would have given dd a contract for the club's benefit and god knows DD had deserved it.

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It's fine people wanting him out, but who do we get in instead and how does that affect how hiring process 6 months down the line?

Does it actually matter who else comes in? As long as it's not Rafa, who the fuck cares?

I find it absolutely baffling that you can still be here supporting him with your self-righteous bullshit - 'in the best interests of the club'. I'm sorry for being so obtusely blunt - but that's complete & utter bollocks. Actually you know what I take that back; I'm not sorry.

You know what's in the best interests of the club right now? Somehow getting our shit together & finishing in the top 4 THIS SEASON. I have no idea where your misguided beliefs are conceived from, nor do I ever really want to find out. But I would imagine that I am speaking for the vast majority of supporters around the globe when I say NO ONE GIVES HALF A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT NEXT SEASON AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. Not when the team that we love is quite literally disintegrating in front of our very eyes; fuck knows about all the shit behind the scenes that we don't actually get to see/hear as well.

You can attempt to justify this absurd notion of no one wanting to take the position of being Chelsea manager if we sack Rafa (which is a complete fucking joke to be quite frank) - but the fact is that if we don't even make it into the CL, then you can forget about your dreams of sucking off that Catalonian man-hunk Guardiola altogether, because he's not going to waste his time with a team that isn't even at the very least competing at the top level in Europe.

I don't see how you can constantly maintain this disgustingly elitist demeanour & suggestive attitude that you are somehow above the rest of the supporters & that you care more about the club, simply because you 'want what's best 6 months down the line' - & yet you continually fail to acknowledge the situation that is currently at hand in the present, which will ultimately affect our future endeavours more than anything else. It's complete idiocy & pure insolence to disregard what is happening right now just for the sake of some speculated future 'super-manager' that has nowhere near any kind of guarantee to actually take the job - in fact the majority of reports actually suggesting otherwise.

Are you honestly going to tell me that you're willing to let this season capitulate into complete shit with that obese cunt in the dugout, purely because you think no one will want to manage the club if we get rid of him?

That, my feeble-minded fellow, has to be the most ridiculously delusional load of bollocks I have ever heard. You seem to be forgetting that WE ARE MOTHERFUCKING CHELSEA FC - & we also happen to have a certain Russian quadrillionaire owner to fund our most extravagant ambitions. Do you seriously believe that any manager out of a job wouldn't jump at the chance to take our team to the brink of glory once again - when even failure to do so will result in no more than a pretty pay cheque & an early holiday?

& so fucking what if Pep is 'a man of integrity' & requires job security or whatever other nonsense is supposedly part of his desired criteria - I couldn't give a flying fuck about him to be honest - I don't really understand all of the hype that so many on here seem to divulge his name in. Honestly, I would take Mourinho over him every single day of the week til the end of the world...but maybe that's just me?

[Leif 6,006]

AT LEAST WE'RE NOT LOSERPOOL! ....yet.

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dude dont troll me, we let zola go out as a "free agent" in the same summer roman came in. infact zola went from chelsea on 2 july 2003 to be absolutely precise, so u r absolutely wrong about it unless i have lost my mind completely and dont remember a thing. anyways u right about him caring for the club's future(short term to be precise) but not about its past. and we were not ready for life without DD and its showing. if roman had not been so hell bent on torres he would have given dd a contract for the club's benefit and god knows DD had deserved it.

Zola had agreed to join Cagliari, Roman tried to change his mind but Zola wouldn't. The rumour was that Roman was prepared to buy Cagliari but I suspect that's a little bit untrue.

As for our history, Roman does respect it but the club couldn't give Drogs everything he wanted and both parties felt it was the perfect time to part. The thinking was that it was time to put the club on Torres's shoulders but it clearly hasn't worked.

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Does it actually matter who else comes in?

Yes it does. It's one of the reasons I asked the question ' who would replace him' and 'how would that affect our long-term hiring strategy'.

I actually think Benitez can get us a top-four position and then I'll wish him farewell.

But in all that somewhat confusing/confused diatribe against me, you didn't actually mention a single name who would replace him.

[Liquidator 5,176]

no need to "sack" JT. just make him the manager till the end of season, then get the big one. plus it was just one case study.

It might sound stupid and drastic but I genuinely think it would work and get us a top 6 finish. Whether or not he has the coaching badges to do it I don't know

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It might sound stupid and drastic but I genuinely think it would work and get us a top 6 finish. Whether or not he has the coaching badges to do it I don't know

I've never quite understood the idea that John Terry could ever be a half-decent coach. A great leader on the pitch but to me he simply doesn't have the intelligence or tactical nous to be one.

If we're seriously looking at promoting a player to the top job then my preference would be Lampard. But it's still a fucking stupid idea.

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But it's still a fucking stupid idea.

so is thinking that Guardiola would genuinely want to manage us but I don't go on about that.

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so is thinking that Guardiola would genuinely want to manage us but I don't go on about that.

It's not fucking stupid in the slightest. :banghead:

By the way, you didn't mention a single thing about JT that would make him a good manager in your opinion.

[didierforever 7,349]

Zola had agreed to join Cagliari, Roman tried to change his mind but Zola wouldn't. The rumour was that Roman was prepared to buy Cagliari but I suspect that's a little bit untrue.

As for our history, Roman does respect it but the club couldn't give Drogs everything he wanted and both parties felt it was the perfect time to part. The thinking was that it was time to put the club on Torres's shoulders but it clearly hasn't worked.

dint know about that but rumors and what actually happens is very different.

plus dd just wanted a 2 year contract compared to a 1 year that was being given and he deserved whatever he wanted,

now to the point, u r the owner of the club, would u take such a big risk when teams like manu have got rvp and rooney. his decision to put it all on torres shows he puts money before the club.