The Benitez Thread

[SinineUltra 1,170]

firstly , dont get y u r getting involved.

secondly, i m not judging any1. some people have a problem when it comes to their own opinion... what ever u say will never be good enough for them even if they are totally and blatantly wrong and saying it in general (world wise where people would do anything to hold on to their opinion) and not just about one particular person here. arguing and debating is somethin not what every1 is good at. moreover i dint insult any1 by using any kind of foul language or i dint say anythin against that person's character. all i said was "arguin with him is like banging your head on the wall"... if u find that derogatory to a fellow user or something of that sort, then well i dont care because i dont think i did anything wrong... i have seen the kind of shit that is written here and towards each other (go to lampard or torres thread), and this statement of mine would not make the cut anywhere...

Fair enough, my apologies. Let's agree to disagree..

[didierforever 7,349]

Because the league was the bread and butter, we needed a top 3 finish this season (still do) and Robbie's record in league football leaves a lot to be desired, which includes the CL group stage as that sort off is a league.

If we were looking to win cups before anything else this season (which included a top 3 finish) then yes we could have used his cup credentials.

that is such a harsh way to judge RDM. would u be saying the same thing if we had lost to napoli last year and then we had concentrated solely on the league and went on to get a 3rd or the 4th spot... i dont know what rdm did with wba to have u doubting him so much... but for CFC he was doing a fine job... yes, we had some big hiccups, had our ups and a single DOWN which was when we threw him out...

[didierforever 7,349]

Fair enough, my apologies. Let's agree to disagree..

ehhh, no biggie... but still dont get what we are disagreeing about...

[Tomo 21,733]

that is such a harsh way to judge RDM. would u be saying the same thing if we had lost to napoli last year and then we had concentrated solely on the league and went on to get a 3rd or the 4th spot... i dont know what rdm did with wba to have u doubting him so much... but for CFC he was doing a fine job... yes, we had some big hiccups, had our ups and a single DOWN which was when we threw him out...

This isn't about doubting him. but the fact's are there, he did fantastic in the cup competition's for us, but when it came to league football (which includes the Champions League group stage) we never looked convincing.

Robbie will without doubt go and have a successful career at a club like Napoli or Valencia however, i do love the man.

[didierforever 7,349]

This isn't about doubting him. but the fact's are there, he did fantastic in the cup competition's for us, but when it came to league football (which includes the Champions League group stage) we never looked convincing.

Robbie will without doubt go and have a successful career at a club like Napoli or Valencia however, i do love the man.

that was a one off (or so i hope). dropping those 2 points to juve while giving them 1, plus so many things could have gone differently (like mata and hazard scoring their one v one in juve match and winning the match). (all said i still believe juve and shakhtar were the better teams in the group)... its just that i dont see wht rdm did wrong in the group stages... even the juve match, i ve to praise him for benching torres and starting with the best possible 11 to get the result we needed... it might not have worked, infact it turned out to be a disaster but in my opinion RDM got the tactics right on the TURIN night.more than rdm's mistakes and tactics it seemed to me that chelsea as a team were not as good as the other 2...

maybe i am way off...

[bushman 2,043]

Well as Chelsea fan, my money on merchandise and attending games goes to the club, so YES I am paying for him, also devoting all of my spare time to watch Chelsea play, suffer the frustration of shitty web streams when not on Sky or UK ESPN...

So my investment into Chelsea - allows me to judge his performance - and as an investor, I'm not impressed...

What an investor you are. Admirable, I might say.

You have the right to complain, that´s fine. However, you have no right to insult him. You know very little about him & you may think that you would do better but anyone who understands football must see Rafa is not the only one to be blamed.

It is almost sickening to read some of these insults, obscenities by some posters.

[robdog 2,084]

What an investor you are. Admirable, I might say.

You have the right to complain, that´s fine. However, you have no right to insult him. You know very little about him & you may think that you would do better but anyone who understands football must see Rafa is not the only one to be blamed.

It is almost sickening to read some of these insults, obscenities by some posters.

don't feel bad. rafadyce said he doesn't hear the fans & that they are plastic anyway. I am sure he doesn't care about us & the feeling is mutual by the fans he is just helping out his old club to crack into the top 4. By bringing us down, l'puke has a chance to surpass Chelsea & keep Suarez. So let me ask you this, do you think rafadyce will secure Chelsea a win @ Anfield?

[bushman 2,043]

don't feel bad. rafadyce said he doesn't hear the fans & that they are plastic anyway. I am sure he doesn't care about us & the feeling is mutual by the fans he is just helping out his old club to crack into the top 4. By bringing us down, l'puke has a chance to surpass Chelsea & keep Suarez. So let me ask you this, do you think rafadyce will secure Chelsea a win @ Anfield?

How would you know all that being in Rancho ?

[robdog 2,084]

How would you know all that being in Rancho ?

I am WorldWide Brother. I have connections everywhere

[zolayes 14,489]

Not rating Rafa is one thing, but Hoddle doing better? we might aswell put McLeish on our next shortlist while were at it.

Hoddle did very well as OUR manager ,,,before your time of course

[bababoom 4,478]

Do people want Rafa gone now?

[Tomo 21,733]

Hoddle did very well as OUR manager ,,,before your time of course

Im well aware of that, but this isn't 1994. Should we resign Dennis Wise and stick him in the pivot while were at it?

[Muzchap 8,966]

What an investor you are. Admirable, I might say.

You have the right to complain, that´s fine. However, you have no right to insult him. You know very little about him & you may think that you would do better but anyone who understands football must see Rafa is not the only one to be blamed.

It is almost sickening to read some of these insults, obscenities by some posters.

I'm not insulting him, I'm critiscising him

Ok the odd FSW comment might pop-out now and again - but I really like that name

Condensing my arguments: he's interim, I don't think that demands the same level of respect from the players, yes they should be professional, yes they should be motivated - but we live in a world where coulda, shoulda, woulda, are all too familiar!

I also don't believe he's making the best use of the options available to him, he's not trying anything different and for somebody lauded as a tactical genius, his 'in-game' decisions IN MY OPINION have been poor...

So yes, players to blame as well as Rafa - in fact the whole of Chelsea is to blame for ruining my season thus far I just hope we (royal we) learn from this, put a line in the sand and move forward.

Still haven't seen anything from you concerning how his tactics were correct and why I'm wrong to criticise him? Notice you conveniently skip that 'Some might say, you can't put your money where your mouth is...'

[Muzchap 8,966]

Hoddle did very well as OUR manager ,,,before your time of course

Some could even argue that Hoddle started the modern day Chelsea, I would be one of them

[Muzchap 8,966]

Im well aware of that, but this isn't 1994. Should we resign Dennis Wise and stick him in the pivot while were at it?

Does that even make sense? Wisey was attacking midfielder

[Tomo 21,733]

Does that even make sense? Wisey was attacking midfielder

So's Lampard

[Muzchap 8,966]

Do people want Rafa gone now?

Seems so - I gave him a chance and hoped it would work out - but doesn't appear to be, for me anyway

Everybody deserves some blame though I guess

[Muzchap 8,966]

So's Lampard

Exactly hence why Rafa is playing him there is a mystery! Correction: Tactical Masterstroke