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The thing is he is 100% correct in his statements about the malcontents who feel the need to show up both at the bridge and away and slag him off...especially when he is tasked with keeping us in the champions league now. The people who do this are a minority too, a vocal one, but still a minority. They really are no different than another organized group of thugs, who shall remain nameless, who constantly showed up and tried to ruin the experience out for everybody at the bridge years back. Groups more preoccupied with their own personal vendettas than with actually supporting the boys and what we are trying to accomplish on the pitch.Any bloke with a pint and a few quid to get in automatically has a soapbox to ramble on about any and everything and the Stewards literally cant be arsed to do anything about it, but pounds rule the world eh? No coincidence its coming from the same area too.... :wank2:

Benitez will fuck off soon enough(thank heavens for that) but the valid point will still remain. Watch those drunk invalids find another target once he rolls away.

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"A group of fans, they are not doing any favours for the team when they are singing and wasting time preparing banners" - rafadyce

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Yep, I hope Mr. Abramovich feels disrespected by you w/ your silly comments, after he gave you a job & gives you the sack in da morning. Nobody wanted then & nobody wants you know. Go kick rocks ya bum <_<

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I think he is somewhat right and somewhat wrong. I agree totally with the part that the minority of fans who are just scapegoating Benitez for everything and anything negative, but never aknowledge his positive achievements with the club, aren't doing us any favours. Ok, yes we know you want him out, we know at times the results haven't gone our way, we're struggling to hold onto top four place, yes we know Di Matteo won us the Champions League (which has as much to do with him as it does with Drogba's form and pure luck) but he's gone now, won't be coming back. It was a great gesture to applaud him on 16th minute but it's getting old now. There are 11 players on the pitch trying to win games, putting in performances although they're overplayed due to lack of squad depth (and quality, because some of the names on the bench shouldn't be there, not sufficent cover ability wise) - and that has nothing to do with the manager or players. It goes down to the board and board only. They're in charge of the transfers, they appointed Benitez and they inserted the title "interim manager" - which made sure he had nowhere the respect from anyone from day one.

So yes, Rafa's right about one thing. Why focus on distributing hate (especially on the Internet) when we know that in 3 months (90 days!) time he will be gone. So instead of rambling on about Benitez, focus on the team and help the team. There's a saying that no man is bigger than the club, well the minority of the fans are equaling Benitez with Chelsea in a sense that they'll rather keep on being twats than support, chant, clap, cheer the team - no matter the result. We all have bad days, why shouldn't footballers.

But he has two weak points. Benitez is terrible with the media. He lets his emotions take control and will say things he'll regret later on. I'm sure the board wasn't expecting that nor will they appreciate him discussing internal affairs with media. Because let's face it English media is made up from bullshit news, taking a quoute and twisting it just to get a couple of million clicks. News=Business, not a source of news. Times have changed. He also stresses the fans' role too much. Like he said, he won 9 trophies in different countries, he should be mentally stronger to hold his composure and refrain from such remarks. In the end of the day, he has had dreadful games tactically - nothing to do with the "small group of fans with an agenda". Both sides need to look in the mirror. He won't and can't be the manager next season, that's clear from day one but we need to accept that he will be gone not before than end of the season. And it saddens me to see that while we have an interim manager, we also got interim fans.

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I liked his talk even though I am not a fan of him.

Especially when he says: 'at the end of the season I am gone, you don't have to worry about me.' Also, the focus should beon the team and sticking up for the players. They AND us want CL football next year. The way things are going now and considering how thin our player pool is, they will need every bit of cheering and atmosphere ....

As much as we may have issues with Benitez .... Sometimes it is time to suck it up and be there as a fan!

I am in.

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Am I here to support Rafa ? No, I am not.

Am I here to support the club ? Yes, I am.

Does it make any sense to insult him ? No, it does not.

Be patient, in 3 months maybe even sooner he is gone.

Who is responsible for hiring him ? Blame the director of Chelsea´s football. He is the one who recommended him.

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To be fair he is somewhat right. I mean the atmosphere of most games is horrible but the worst thing is this was happening well before Rafa took over. Now that's not so much for the away support but the home support is terrible. Surely one of the worst in the league and that's because half our fans are glory hunters. No word of a lie there if you go to the stadium you will see first hand most of them don't know what they're talking about.

I remember one game when Di Santo was about to come on for us and there was this young man sitting behind me pretending like he knew everything and then before Franco came on he said... "I don't know who this is, I think it's Zhirkov." Now it doesn't so much annoy me that he didn't know who he was but it annoyed me that he was pretending to be some sort of superior fan.

The worst thing is that he probably knew more than alot of the people in the stadium and that's because the board does not care about the real supporters, they care about money and money only. They would prefer to bump up the prices of tickets and have heaps of tourists at the bridge over an amazing atmosphere.

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Wow MHL showing your age there mate :)

BFH - cant beat a bit of bully :) good ole Jim Bowen :)

No, I've just been watching the re-runs :halo:

Classic old time quiz show, and some of those prizes, seriously!

Back to TFSW, sounds like he avoided having to catch the bus. It's unbeeleebable (FSW speak there) that he believes he'll get away with this rant.. He's gotta know that this'll be the end, he may be many things but he won't be completely stupid. This was well rehearsed and according to reports this morning was repeated to the radio, TV and written media reporters on separate occasions. No matter what questions were being asked he went back to the rant.

Either he knows that he was going very soon and wanted to get-in first, which in his warped mind may make any other employer think that he's been hard done by and let him have an opportunity at a new club, or he's already got one lined up and wants to start work for them sooner rather than later, either directly or behind the current incumbant's back.

There's been rumours about that Grant has been spending time around the club again recently and it may be he's put two-and-two together?

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I liked his talk even though I am not a fan of him.

Especially when he says: 'at the end of the season I am gone, you don't have to worry about me.' Also, the focus should beon the team and sticking up for the players. They AND us want CL football next year. The way things are going now and considering how thin our player pool is, they will need every bit of cheering and atmosphere ....

As much as we may have issues with Benitez .... Sometimes it is time to suck it up and be there as a fan!

I am in.

He's got a point about people having an agenda too. You can see that in this thread where people were preparing the chants before his first game, and I criticised that at the time. I didn't want him before he got the job (like most fans) and I didn't want him to stay one second longer than he has too (like most fans), but in between those two times it served our own long-term needs to support him or at least not give him stick.

But people were already bowling out of Fulham Broadway with their little chants and their print-outs of 'Rafa Out'. Now they'll say they just care about the club, but booing the manager wasn't in the best interests of the club in my opinion. The atmosphere has been toxic, not because of Rafa but because of the reaction to Rafa.

1% of life is what happens to you - 99% is how you react to it and when you expect someone to fail then it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The thing is, I'm not sure if these fans are happy or sad that we're in the state we're in now. There are people in life who enjoy having something to moan about and they certainly have that now.

Yes you have a right to voice an opinion once you've forked over that money that you worked hard for (or didn't - no judging) but to me that isn't fun. Going to a football match with the intention of criticising the manager of the team before he's taken charge of his first game (because there is surely no doubt that's what some fans did) isn't fun to me. It isn't entertaining. It isn't what I wanted to do when my dad first took me to see Chelsea. It isn't what he had in mind has a fun day out when he went to the box office on his lunch breaks to get tickets and I simply can't fathom the logic of the fans who tried to make the atmosphere at the Bridge as toxic as they could. Yes they did it for the manager's benefit, but there are players on the pitch who DO hear it, there are fans in the stadium who DO hear it and don't like it and there are fans around the world who DO watch it and must think what the fuck are we actually trying to achieve.

Any fan with half a brain knew that Rafa wasn't going before summer unless results got so bad there'd be no other choice. They've very nearly got that now.

Where's the champagne?

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