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JT is back you know? or you prefer Cahill and Luiz ahead of him?

And like it or not Torres will start 100%, the rest are just mandatory.

I dont think he is matchfit besides its not like he was beast against Shakhtar last time. He was the one who cost us the first goal and he could have marked Fernandinho for the second goal.

JT's UCL form has been shit, he played very bad vs Juve and he also played very bad vs Shakhtar. But i correct myself this is a better backline :

Azpi-Iva-Cahill-Cole

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Ow no I won't. I wanna see Chelsea win, not just see Hazard play. I do love him I admit (as I have always done - no hidden agenda here).

Chelsea have won with Torres many times, why do you automatically assume we won't win? And real supporters support the club through good and bad, meaning you should be able to watch us getting thrashed, not just enjoy winning.

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The way i see it is no team who makes it in to the Champions League is a mug, they've still got there and you can't assume you going to take points off them. They are on an unbeaten run for a reason, stats make no difference, Bayern munich could of gone into the final saying "we've won CL and they haven't so the odds are for us" yeah they probably were but you can't take that into account. It's going to be a very tough game wednesday, but of course we can win it, Juve away will be very tough though. As previously said, 3 points is a must tomorrow. and i'd like to see a draw in Turin.

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Chelsea have won with Torres many times, why do you automatically assume we won't win? And real supporters support the club through good and bad, meaning you should be able to watch us getting thrashed, not just enjoy winning.

I really must reply to this. I am sorry, but you are being unfair.

1. I know chelsea have been winning with Torres. But he sucks right now. So I do not think he deserves a start. He has had a lot of credit and did not deliver. Don't give just stats on this. He isn't the striker Chelsea deserves.

2. Real supporters? What does that mean? I know I am relatively new to this forum, but this is an authority argument purely and thus invalid. I am a supporter as much as you. I bet I am even older then you. but I do believe you love Chelsea for real, much unlike you think of me from your post. Shame.

3. About the 'you should be able to watch us getting trashed'. Fuck no, not because of Torres. He sucked, deal with that. I can deal with defeat, I cannot deal with complete blindsight to the fact that Torres is really, really bad right now. or do you want his price justified in your mind?

If you want to go all psychological on the analyses with me. You will lose. It is about fact, not your interpretation of facts.

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If the Swansea game was anything to go by, then I would probably stick with Ivanovic and Cahill at CB again but doubt that is gonna happen.

Shakhtar has impressive offensive players. So it would be wise to let Ivanovic play as RB to be more secure when they are attacking. But I would give Luiz a break.

Ivanovic----Cahill----Terry----Cole

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Shakhtar has impressive offensive players. So it would be wise to let Ivanovic play as RB to be more secure when they are attacking. But I would give Luiz a break.

Ivanovic----Cahill----Terry----Cole

Azpilicueta is solid defensively and has played in many Champions League match previously for Marseille. He wouldn't be a rabbit caught under the headlights should he feature on Wednesday.

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