Financial Fair Play

[LAM09 7,043]

Until actually UEFA does something 'right' in regards to what FFP is about and has been talked about, like banning clubs from European competition, doubt anyone would really take it seriously especially when leniency are being shown.

Exactly. They need to make a statement against a big club. Malaga were banned last year for financial problems, but they are a small club. UEFA are scared to punish one of the powerhouses, and until they do; FFP will be a waste of time!

[Fernando 6,585]

Exactly. They need to make a statement against a big club. Malaga were banned last year for financial problems, but they are a small club. UEFA are scared to punish one of the powerhouses, and until they do; FFP will be a waste of time!

Have to look past the 50 million fine and look at the other punishment involve.

Cause the truth is that for a rich team 50 million is a little set back, but they can live.

The other punishment of squad reduction, wage cap, and homegrown is of more significant.

We should be focusing on this side.

[The Mak 4,459]

Until actually UEFA does something 'right' in regards to what FFP is about and has been talked about, like banning clubs from European competition, doubt anyone would really take it seriously especially when leniency are being shown.

I can't remember where I heard this, but apparently in America in either the NFL and/or MLB they have similar sanctions and the money from a club's (massive) fine is distributed evenly between the other teams in the league who did not break sanctions...maybe an American brethren can confirm this, but call me crazy, it seems like a much more reasonable solution compared to fines going straight in Platini's pockets...try telling him that!

[LAM09 7,043]

Have to look past the 50 million fine and look at the other punishment involve.

Cause the truth is that for a rich team 50 million is a little set back, but they can live.

The other punishment of squad reduction, wage cap, and homegrown is of more significant.

We should be focusing on this side.

I understand what you are saying mate, but UEFA said clubs found guilty would be suspended from European Competitions. That clearly isn't the case, looking at City.

[Fernando 6,585]

I understand what you are saying mate, but UEFA said clubs found guilty would be suspended from European Competitions. That clearly isn't the case, looking at City.

And they also said that would be the last measured.

They said that it will be progressive punishment for those continuously breaking the rules.

[LAM09 7,043]

And they also said that would be the last measured.

They said that it will be progressive punishment for those continuously breaking the rules.

I still find that pointless. If they want to make a statement about FFP, ban clubs. That is the only way clubs will stay in line. A fine isn't a big deal for major clubs.

[Fernando 6,585]

I still find that pointless. If they want to make a statement about FFP, ban clubs. That is the only way clubs will stay in line. A fine isn't a big deal for major clubs.

What you mean pointless?

The 50 million if it was only that it would have been pointless for a very rich club.

The other punishment are of real consequences and best option then out rightly banning them.

Cause it shows that UEFA is giving chances to teams to get their act straight.

You imagine if we screw up once and break the rule? Do you want them to ban us right of the bat?

No give us a chance to work it out.

Now if the same club continues doing the same after having been already sanctioned, then it makes sense to escalate the punishment.

But I repeat, you just focusing on the 50 million fine and forgetting the other punishment which are of greater impact!

[LAM09 7,043]

What you mean pointless?

The 50 million if it was only that it would have been pointless for a very rich club.

The other punishment are of real consequences and best option then out rightly banning them.

Cause it shows that UEFA is giving chances to teams to get their act straight.

You imagine if we screw up once and break the rule? Do you want them to ban us right of the bat?

No give us a chance to work it out.

Now if the same continues doing the same after having been already sanctioned, then it makes sense to escalate the punishment.

FFP hasn't come out of nowhere, clubs have been warned about it for a while. I personally think the procedure UEFA have currently followed is too lenient IMO. If FFP was just announced, I would say this punishment would suffice, but that isn't the case.

It relation to Chelsea, we are trying to follow FFP, by selling players, and go far in European Competitions. I think the Chelsea board are making sure they don't fall foul of FFP.

[Fernando 6,585]

FFP hasn't come out of nowhere, clubs have been warned about it for a while. I personally think the procedure UEFA have currently followed is too lenient IMO. If FFP was just announced, I would say this punishment would suffice, but that isn't the case.

It relation to Chelsea, we are trying to follow FFP, by selling players, and go far in European Competitions. I think the Chelsea board are making sure they don't fall foul of FFP.

Yes, but if FFP hasn't come out of nowhere then you should know that FFP also had in mind sanctions step.

First a fine, then point deductions and finally ban.

It was an escalation punishment to repeatedly offenders.

[LAM09 7,043]

Yes, but if FFP hasn't come out of nowhere then you should know that FFP also had in mind sanctions step.

First a fine, then point deductions and finally ban.

It was an escalation punishment.

I personally wasn't aware of that, but a three strike set up is too lenient either way IMO.

[Fernando 6,585]

I personally wasn't aware of that, but a three strike set up is too lenient either way IMO.

Rules are rules, and we all agreed to it.

[LAM09 7,043]

Rules are rules, and we all agreed to it.

Some more than others.

[Fernando 6,585]

What I want to know is if those sponsorship deal that PSG and City did with themselves will stand?

Cause if UEFA let it slide then these two teams will be in the green in less then 5 years as those are massive injection that will count as revenue.....

[Rmpr 8,977]

https://twitter.com/JWTelegraph/status/463661515628118016

Inclined to agree with the notion above. This almost feels like a way for UEFA to pick up more $$$$$$$$..

Exactly!

Yet some of our dumb members think it is right to back UEFA in this shit just because it "benefits us".

Pathetic!

[The only place to be 11,313]

Exactly!

Yet some of our dumb members think it is right to back UEFA in this shit just because it "benefits us".

Pathetic!

No reason for you to call members dumb simply because they believe that City should be punished for not playing by the same rules that we have over the last few years.