Victor Moses

[Kieran. 6,317]

Agreed, I'm a fan of his game. Direct, pacy, strong on the ball, reminds me a bit of Malouda (09-10 form) but obviously not as good.

People on this thread acting like he's Marin... Very decent player, offers something different to our AMs.. Good squad option.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Change his name to Mosesdinho and a lot of opinions would change.

He's a direct player, a bit rudimentary at times but he produced on the pitch so I'm not sure why certain people dislike him so much.

[Beepu 1,714]

Would be good enough as the 6th AM I think. Besides, isn't he the toughest player Luke Shaw has played against?

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Would be good enough as the 6th AM I think. Besides, isn't he the toughest player Luke Shaw has played against?

Surprisingly yes. That's shocking.

[lionsden 4,689]

Was Willian really that much of an upgrade on this guy. He wasn't worth the £30m imo and I would rather have just kept Moses. . . .they are both pacy,energetic, tactically astute , non existent/shit end product and awful decision making. one is just more hyped up than the other. I said it at the time that Willian was an unnecessary and I still stand by that.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Was Willian really that much of an upgrade on this guy. He wasn't worth the £30m imo and I would rather have just kept Moses. . . .they are both pacy,energetic, tactically astute , non existent/shit end product and awful decision making. one is just more hyped up than the other. I said it at the time that Willian was an unnecessary and I still stand by that.

The only thing i agree with is Willian was/is unnecessary.

He's clearly played his better football here when he was #10, but with Oscar on the team, he's going to spend more time than none on the wing and not do much.

As for Moses, idc he's a EL quality player. If he stays here only a matter of time before everyone complains about him, and wish we sign Di Maria...

[Azul 1,615]

Schürrle-Hazard-Moses. I think that this trio can work wonders, Moses is a pure winger he offers width which is very important imo. Thoughts?

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Schürrle-Hazard-Moses. I think that this trio can work wonders, Moses is a pure winger he offers width which is very important imo. Thoughts?

I like Moses, I'm not sure he works hard enough without the ball to play for us. If he comes in and improves his work ethic he could do a job for us, we'll have to see.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

The only thing i agree with is Willian was/is unnecessary.

He's clearly played his better football here when he was #10, but with Oscar on the team, he's going to spend more time than none on the wing and not do much.

As for Moses, idc he's a EL quality player. If he stays here only a matter of time before everyone complains about him, and wish we sign Di Maria...

for £9m he is a decent squad player. Don't quite know what people expect from him.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Was Willian really that much of an upgrade on this guy. He wasn't worth the £30m imo and I would rather have just kept Moses. . . .they are both pacy,energetic, tactically astute , non existent/shit end product and awful decision making. one is just more hyped up than the other. I said it at the time that Willian was an unnecessary and I still stand by that.

I like Moses but Willian has 10x more natural talent than Moses, even if Willian isn't really worth £30m, and I was also one of those that said he was a very unnecessary signing.

[Azul 1,615]

I like Moses, I'm not sure he works hard enough without the ball to play for us. If he comes in and improves his work ethic he could do a job for us, we'll have to see.

Oscar has not impressed me, he is too unconsistent. He gets away with it though just because he is Brazilian.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Just noticed he's part of the 25 man squad for the next 3 games.

for £9m he is a decent squad player. Don't quite know what people expect from him.

He is definitely, if he can get back to form.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Oscar has not impressed me, he is too unconsistent. He gets away with it though just because he is Brazilian.

Oscar? You guys watch football from one end of the pitch, Oscar works hard for the team and what he lacks in high end quality on the ball he more than makes up for in work rate and defensive acumen. Not everyone on the team has to be brilliant on the ball.

Anyway back to Moses...

He can learn a thing or two from Oscar.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Oscar? You guys watch football from one end of the pitch, Oscar works hard for the team and what he lacks in high end quality on the ball he more than makes up for in work rate and defensive acumen. Not everyone on the team has to be brilliant on the ball.

Anyway back to Moses...

He can learn a thing or two from Oscar.

To be honest though, our number 10 does have to be more incisive or 'brilliant' if you will in the final third. His work rate and defensive acumen are great traits but he does need to show more quality in the final third. I'm not happy with his productivity in the final third, and I'm pretty sure he knows he can do better. In the number 10 role you need to be productive in the final third. It's a necessity IMO.

[lionsden 4,689]

I like Moses but Willian has 10x more natural talent than Moses, even if Willian isn't really worth £30m, and I was also one of those that said he was a very unnecessary signing.

The only thing willian is better at than Moses is dwelling on the ball,slowing it down unnecessarily and killing our attacking momentum. That he's 10x better than Moses at,world class even.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Oscar? You guys watch football from one end of the pitch, Oscar works hard for the team and what he lacks in high end quality on the ball he more than makes up for in work rate and defensive acumen. Not everyone on the team has to be brilliant on the ball.

Anyway back to Moses...

He can learn a thing or two from Oscar.

Except it doesn't more than make up for it. Oscar should be brilliant on the ball, and he's shown flashes of that but he contributed very little in an attacking sense from January onwards.

You might as well just stick Ramires in there.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

To be honest though, our number 10 does have to be more incisive or 'brilliant' if you will in the final third. His work rate and defensive acumen are great traits but he does need to show more quality in the final third. I'm not happy with his productivity in the final third, and I'm pretty sure he knows he can do better. In the number 10 role you need to be productive in the final third. It's a necessity IMO.

He can do better and I expect the 22 yr old to improve as well! He's played well in patches, much like Hazard to be honest... He works extremely hard for the team and in the end that takes away from his quality going forward.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Except it doesn't more than make up for it. Oscar should be brilliant on the ball, and he's shown flashes of that but he contributed very little in an attacking sense from January onwards.

You might as well just stick Ramires in there.

I realize that but no one was saying anything close to this at any point in 12-13 or the first half of last season when he singlehandedly carried the team. He had a bad spell and looked tired, I don't think that should be overlooked or understated Jose demands a lot from his players and Oscar probably wasn't in the best shape to cope. And yes his work rate for the team does make up the the lack of elite technical ability, when you can find another no.10 that works as hard as him to win the ball and initiate counters then we can talk.