Oscar

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

He was on the left wing last night, a position I believe he has never played before.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Honestly, Oscar isn't really ideal for what Jose envisions imo and his probably dieing out physically from it. Cesc took half a season before he broked down under Jose too.

Also, maybe he regrets branding him his n10, but I don't think he would of made Juan mata his n10.

Yeah, perhaps you're right about that to be honest. Problem is, there's a dying breed of n10s that are in the José mould and it's difficult to see how he plans to go forward if he is to let Oscar go at the end of the season. Hazard could be moved to there and we bring in a LW but then I think even Hazard would suffer with the needs of JM's tactics. I do agree what you said before though, that Mourinho won't regret selling KdB, he doesn't seem like the ideal n10 for Mou's systems. It would only work if he was out a bit wide in midfield but no primarily doing a winger's job.

[Oscar 441]

fair enough, i get what you are saying, but what i dont get is how or why it has been so. oscar or hazard or cesc or matic are not the first bunch of players to play a fair chunk of the season. lamps did it for years. neville, scholes have done it for years.

if you are talking about fatigue i have to disagree.

if you are talking about niggling injuries which dont go away, maybe. but more than injured, these players look disheartened. uninterested.

for all the talk of backing jose and jose being the best manager in the world to the last person in the squad, most of the players look like they dont give a shit about the manager, the club or the game. and i am talking mostly about attackers - hazard, cesc, oscar, costa, pedro. they dont look like they are enjoying their game. so i dont know if its injuries or just something mental.

Difference really...

Lamps never pressed like Oscar did and lamps is about 6 ft and near 200lbs. Also, he was shielded by beasts in essien, maks, ballack, etc.

DO you really think its a mental thing with all those players though? If it was just oscar, it would make sense, but all those players have died out since the turn of the year. In jose's third year at madrid, everyone died out too from what i remembered.

I've always believed Jose's tactics/playstyle can never be a long term idea. Players, especially attackers will get sick of Jose's tactics, etc.

[Oscar 441]

Yeah, perhaps you're right about that to be honest. Problem is, there's a dying breed of n10s that are in the José mould and it's difficult to see how he plans to go forward if he is to let Oscar go at the end of the season. Hazard could be moved to there and we bring in a LW but then I think even Hazard would suffer with the needs of JM's tactics. I do agree what you said before though, that Mourinho won't regret selling KdB, he doesn't seem like the ideal n10 for Mou's systems. It would only work if he was out a bit wide in midfield but no primarily doing a winger's job.

I think Vidal would be the only player that could work honestly...

Prime Vidal.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

I think he's being rested for January. No second half collapse if you don't play in the first half

[DYC. 7,542]

I think he's being rested for January. No second half collapse if you don't play in the first half

Either he's a dead man walking or he's the new Mikel and we'll still see him in the squad in 2022.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Either he's a dead man walking or he's the new Mikel and we'll still see him in the squad in 2022.

From "he is my number 10" to "The new Mikel"

I'm starting to pity oscar

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Either he's a dead man walking or he's the new Mikel and we'll still see him in the squad in 2022.

I think he has too much pride for that.

He's gone next summer.

[didierforever 7,349]

I think he has too much pride for that.

He's gone next summer.

we had oscar, mata, kdb as our no.10 options. with the way things are we might have none of them by the end of the season. in 3 seasons. just in 3seasons. jose deserves all the praise possible for that.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

we had oscar, mata, kdb as our no.10 options. with the way things are we might have none of them by the end of the season. in 3 seasons. just in 3seasons. jose deserves all the praise possible for that.

I wonder how long we'll keep moaning about that until we'l finally stop crying over spilled milk. Jesus, it has become utterly boring.

If we still had Robben! Good job Chelsea for let go of Robben.

Wish Zola was still here, why let him go?

[didierforever 7,349]

I wonder how long we'll keep moaning about that until we'l finally stop crying over spilled milk. Jesus, it has become utterly boring.

If we still had Robben! Good job Chelsea for let go of Robben.

Wish Zola was still here, why let him go?

hahahhaha... zola is 49, mata and kdb are 26 are 24 respectively. so

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

hahahhaha... zola is 49, mata and kdb are 26 are 24 respectively. so

Could've used Carvalho then right now....or Kakuta

Maybe we can get Torres back.

[didierforever 7,349]

Could've used Carvalho then right now....or Kakuta

Maybe we can get Torres back.

so you think kakuta and torres are equivalent to the class of mata and kdb?? :lol:

the gift that never stops giving.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

so you think kakuta and torres are equivalent to the class of mata and kdb?? :lol:

the gift that never stops giving.

Clearly not reading my messages through...as usual

the gift that never stops giving. and all that....

[didierforever 7,349]

Clearly not reading my messages through...as usual

the gift that never stops giving. and all that....

What message? The message that people should cry as mich over kakut ans torres as over mata and ldb?