Oscar

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Only 70%?

Some of the younger kids at the academy could duplicate his performances since January & play as well as him.

Was talking about how only 70% of what Jose says are true-most of them usually are just mind games. In regard to your Oscar reference I agree, he didn't play as well since new year bar a couple of games like against Southampton, Arsenal...etc. However, I think he was saving himself for the WC and feared a burnout. This season will be very important for him, possibly his last chance to truly impress us as fans too.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Only 70%?

Some of the younger kids at the academy could duplicate his performances since January & play as well as him.

its amazing how you only remember the negatives and the positives. He had an incredible start to his Chelsea career and did very well during the first half of this season. Just because he ended it on an average note does not mean he's a bad player.

Had Oscar been at some other club you'd be drooling over the prospect of signing him.

[bushman 2,043]

Was talking about how only 70% of what Jose says are true-most of them usually are just mind games. In regard to your Oscar reference I agree, he didn't play as well since new year bar a couple of games like against Southampton, Arsenal...etc. However, I think he was saving himself for the WC and feared a burnout. This season will be very important for him, possibly his last chance to truly impress us as fans too.

I know you were talking about Jose.

When I questioned his performances, insinuated that he was saving his butt for the WC, I was attacked here.

Should Roman pay him good wages to walk around the pitch for 5 months? I don´t think so. The way I see it. Either you play as you are capable or screw you. Should anyone at Chelsea care about his Brazil? Sorry, but I do not.

[bushman 2,043]

its amazing how you only remember the negatives and the positives. He had an incredible start to his Chelsea career and did very well during the first half of this season. Just because he ended it on an average note does not mean he's a bad player.

Had Oscar been at some other club you'd be drooling over the prospect of signing him.

It´s amazing how you misread my posting. Did I not post, he played shitty since January only?

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

It´s amazing how you misread my posting. Did I not post, he played shitty since January only?

you want to sell him because he's been average since January? Brilliant! Forget all the great things he's done here and judge him for his recent performances.

[lionsden 4,689]

If we get any decent offer for him from psg (£20m plus) I had drive him down to paris myself

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

you want to sell him because he's been average since January? Brilliant! Forget all the great things he's done here and judge him for his recent performances.

Tbf he hasn't been instrumental in any trophy we have won since his arrival in 2012(yes we only won Europa League). When we won it, Torres, Mata, Terry, Lampard, Hazard and Luiz all played key roles while Oscar didn't do much. Same with BPL, he had a few good/great performances but most of them are just general/OK performances with a few terrible ones. Toward the end of 12-13 season he faded as well, not sure why it repeated in 13-14 but I can only think of WC. If he does the same next season it will have to be his fault and confirms that he isn't up to it physically-in which case we better off selling.

But in general I would give him next season as the last chance.

[bushman 2,043]

you want to sell him because he's been average since January? Brilliant! Forget all the great things he's done here and judge him for his recent performances.

See lionsden posting. I will chip in for gas.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Tbf he hasn't been instrumental in any trophy we have won since his arrival in 2012(yes we only won Europa League). When we won it, Torres, Mata, Terry, Lampard, Hazard and Luiz all played key roles while Oscar didn't do much. Same with BPL, he had a few good/great performances but most of them are just general/OK performances with a few terrible ones. Toward the end of 12-13 season he faded as well, not sure why it repeated in 13-14 but I can only think of WC. If he does the same next season it will have to be his fault and confirms that he isn't up to it physically-in which case we better off selling.

But in general I would give him next season as the last chance.

That is a bit too harsh on Oscar considering he was our top goal getter in Europe in the season we won the Europa.

He was the spark that won us a lot of matches during the title run-in. Remember him coming on during the second half and knocking in half chances while Torres was struggling to find the back of the neck.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

That is a bit too harsh on Oscar considering he was our top goal getter in Europe in the season we won the Europa.

He was the spark that won us a lot of matches during the title run-in. Remember him coming on during the second half and knocking in half chances while Torres was struggling to find the back of the neck.

Really? I never paid attention to that, off the back of my head the games against the likes of Basel, Benfica, Rubin...etc Oscar haven't really done much in those games. Maybe he was our top scorer in the CL but we gone out of it so it is pretty irrelevance imo. Yep I know but the thing with his 'spark' is that they don't appear often enough, he is capable of game changing performances but he doesn't deliver them often enough which is the big problem-in another word inconsistency.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Really? I never paid attention to that, off the back of my head the games against the likes of Basel, Benfica, Rubin...etc Oscar haven't really done much in those games. Maybe he was our top scorer in the CL but we gone out of it so it is pretty irrelevance imo. Yep I know but the thing with his 'spark' is that they don't appear often enough, he is capable of game changing performances but he doesn't deliver them often enough which is the big problem-in another word inconsistency.

But you kinda expect inconsistency from such a young kid coming into a new country, new club especially when he was playing out of position on the wings while Mata was being awesome playing in the hole.

Still, after 2 seasons with the club, we could expect consitent displays from him from next season onwards. I wouldn't replace him with any other 'available' player right now.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

But you kinda expect inconsistency from such a young kid coming into a new country, new club especially when he was playing out of position on the wings while Mata was being awesome playing in the hole.

Still, after 2 seasons with the club, we could expect consitent displays from him from next season onwards. I wouldn't replace him with any other 'available' player right now.

Yep I know, just that he has sort of done it for 2 consecutive seasons, no major injuries or anything as well. I know like I said me and others are willing to give him next season to prove this suspicion have no foundation. However, if it happens again our suspicion would be confirmed. Saying that he isn't unsellable though, if PSG decide to go mental and offer 40-50m for him I think we should still take it. Even at his very best I doubt he will ever be worth more than that, especially with FFP restricting clubs like City and PSG to 60m now. The days of players going for Bale fee are soon to be over for good.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Yep I know, just that he has sort of done it for 2 consecutive seasons, no major injuries or anything as well. I know like I said me and others are willing to give him next season to prove this suspicion have no foundation. However, if it happens again our suspicion would be confirmed. Saying that he isn't unsellable though, if PSG decide to go mental and offer 40-50m for him I think we should still take it. Even at his very best I doubt he will ever be worth more than that, especially with FFP restricting clubs like City and PSG to 60m now. The days of players going for Bale fee are soon to be over for good.

He is a player that we absolutely need and works quite well in Jose's system.

For a club with our riches, he is unsellable.Period. We ain't no fucking Arsenal.

If he fails to improve as a player in the next season or, maybe, in the next 2 seasons, then it might be time to look for his replacement.

[bushman 2,043]

If he doesn't improve in the next season, then nobody is paying much for him. If PSG is willing to pay a lot, then no chance is needed to wait for one year.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

He is a player that we absolutely need and works quite well in Jose's system.

For a club with our riches, he is unsellable.Period. We ain't no fucking Arsenal.

If he fails to improve as a player in the next season or, maybe, in the next 2 seasons, then it might be time to look for his replacement.

We could say the same about Mata and Luiz after 2012 or even last year. Who knows maybe Jose will be sacked after next season and the new manager might not prefer him...etc nothing is certain in football. Btw actually from now on we do with FFP, the days of us spending 50-100m every summer with players not needed leaving for free/low fees are over with FFP. We have to be very clever now.

I know, the last sentence is what I have been saying all along.