Oscar

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Last 3 games for City had 1 crucial element....

Silva didn't play in any of them...

The 3 games Oscar played this season, we conceded 1 goal and are 2-0-1

Just based on EPL season, we already conceded 12 goals this year. We will drop points with oscar on the team sheet, but we also will win more games with him as our cam than KDB as our cam

Any statistician will tell you that using an handful of games as evidence of anything is simply not a large enough sample and therefore lacks credibility.

There's no real proof that Oscar has a positive effect on pur result in the long term (since his return) Our 2 consecutive wins is more a case of circunstances i.e beating a significantly weak opponent in macabi and taking advantage of our numerical adavantage against a rival.

You are trying desperately to make Oscar into a key player for this team which he isn't. To be a key player, you actually have to be consistent and reliable like David Silva you used to make your point.

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do you still deny Jose made a mistake in selling him ?

Only transfer I admit to Jose making a mistake is Luiz and Felipe Luis. (other young loanees is a different thing).

Any statistician will tell you that using an handful of games as evidence of anything is simply not a large enough sample and therefore lacks credibility.

There's no real proof that Oscar has a positive effect on pur result in the long term. In the last two games (since his return) we have played an awful team that we should be beating regardless in the UCL and have beaten a team of 9 men (wow what a great achievement). You are trying desperately to make Oscar into a key player for this team which he isn't. To be a keg player, ypj actually have to be consistent and reliable like David Silva you used to make your point.

The proof is in the other players and how they played when Oscar was there...

First game, we played vs a good swansea team and was the better team until thibo got red carded/oscar subbed out, second game, that team is probably the worst team in UCL, however, arsenal we dominated them from beginning to start and they were hardly a threat.

Oscar has always been a key player for chelsea in the first half of the season, just as Eden has been usually the best player in the second half.

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I don't dislike KDB, I dislike the fact that people think KDB was going to make City into a top tier team in Europe and we should regret his sale...

How do you know he will not? He is a improvement on the majority of their players and is one of the top AM in Europe and is only 24. Yes, we should regret it because he is better than all other players we sacrificed for. For instance yesterday, Oscar did not do much offensively but helped defensively. KDB gives you both of that. Just look at his goals and assists last season and how much we relied on Hazard at certain parts. He would have taken that barrier off Hazard. Even in the opening stages of the season, we have looked lacklusture in front of goala nd I certainly think we could have done with KDB.

And regardless of what you say, early signs of his City form show he is going to be a player for them.

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How do you know he will not? He is a improvement on the majority of their players and is one of the top AM in Europe and is only 24. Yes, we should regret it because he is better than all other players we sacrificed for. For instance yesterday, Oscar did not do much offensively but helped defensively. KDB gives you both of that. Just look at his goals and assists last season and how much we relied on Hazard at certain parts. He would have taken that barrier off Hazard. Even in the opening stages of the season, we have looked lacklusture in front of goala nd I certainly think we could have done with KDB.

And regardless of what you say, early signs of his City form show he is going to be a player for them.

KDB made Cuadrado look like a god...DOn't know where you get this idea that he has good defensive workrate, but than again, you claim Coutinho has good workrate and balance.

KDB is not a top am in Europe. Plenty of ams that are better than KDB. KDB and Hazard are 2 different players. Hazard can dribble, keep possession and take players on.... KDB cannot

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KDB made Cuadrado look like a god...DOn't know where you get this idea that he has good defensive workrate, but than again, you claim Coutinho has good workrate and balance.

KDB is not a top am in Europe. Plenty of ams that are better than KDB. KDB and Hazard are 2 different players. Hazard can dribble, keep possession and take players on.... KDB cannot

You think Oscar is better than KDB. That is ludicrous imo. Clear we made a mistake but you want to deny it.

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You think Oscar is better than KDB. That is ludicrous imo. Clear we made a mistake but you want to deny it.

Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

This isn't like Pogba and United where United needed Pogba. We don't need KDB, we already have Cesc.

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Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

Because he is clearly better than all of our AM bar Hazard. He also is younger than Hazard and will get better. He will not get the same stats but would he improve us? Of course he would. I also think he would have helped us in Europe too but last season against PSG for example even with an extra man the tactic was get the ball to Hazard. No one else took responsibility. Something KDB would have done. Let's just see the next few games and see how KDB performs.

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He had a good fucking game. Kompany was injured before kick off. Aguero was not at the races. How can that loss be blamed on KDB? Although there are many views you say which I disagree on at least there is reasoning to it. This is just pure rubbish because you dislike KDB. If everyone was up to scratch and they did not make defensive errors and Aguero was more sharp they could have easily won. Such a ludicrous point.

That is the performance I wish Oscar could put in for us. KDB has defensive work and everything you want offensively from a no.10 Just accept he is a quality player, had a ood game and stop making ludicrous points like them losing was KDB fault.

have you thought that maybe Aguero wasnt at the races as he didnt get good service? when Silva plays in the hole he always creates for Aguero, i cant remember seeing KdB create any good chances from open play, I bet Aguero cant wait for Silva to get back from injury.

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Mistake? WHY

He was never going to pull those stats here at Chelsea, so what mistake did we make? Only mistake was not adding a performance clause into the deal.

This isn't like Pogba and United where United needed Pogba. We don't need KDB, we already have Cesc.

check what people have been saying about Cesc ... and since you are so fond of quoting random stats , look at Cescs stats for the 2nd half of seasons including

the last

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check what people have been saying about Cesc ... and since you are so fond of quoting random stats , look at Cescs stats for the 2nd half of seasons including

the last

KDB didn't have the same responsibilites as Cesc did.

Cesc, even though his pace is similar to a turtle can put in a defensive shift better than KDB can. Did you see the juve game where KDB kept getting destroyed on the wings when he was introduced into the game... i'm sure the belgians can't deny this, but his tackling ability might be even worse than Juan Mata.

Cesc is a better fit than KDB here, so, no lost imo.

it's like barca fans dont give a shit about Cesc leaving them because rakitic was a better fit for them.

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have you thought that maybe Aguero wasnt at the races as he didnt get good service? when Silva plays in the hole he always creates for Aguero, i cant remember seeing KdB create any good chances from open play, I bet Aguero cant wait for Silva to get back from injury.

He did but Reid had him under control. There is no two-ways about it. He was City's best player yesterday. Aguero had few chances but fluffed them.

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KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

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KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

I think Oscar done well but people really overrate his performances. Maccabi are awful and any player playing that day would have excelled. Willian was excellent during the game, like everyone else. We would have battered them with or without Oscar. They were that awful. Arsenal, defensively he impressed me with 2 great slide tackles but was frustrating on an offensive POV. But he done well but we were mainly helped by the red card tbh. That is what influenced the game.

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KDB is a quality player and he will add quality to the City squad 100%..it was a poor decision by Jose to treat him the way he did but I also believe it helped his career, he went to Wolfsburg with a point to prove.. But for those who are still doubting Oscar impact have complex with greener grass because there has been an improvement in the team in the last two games he's been back

I like Oscar and have always defended him ,, but I also think KDB is a class player ,, Some here can't accept that . I think BOTH could have fitted into our team

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I like Coutinho and I think he would be great as part of Chelsea. I think hes got more to offer offensively and has more chance of being a game changer than Oscar.

But I do like Oscar. Admittedly more for his high up defence. The way he stayed level with the defenders and only dropping back when he had to is what we should do more of. It was the same way he played against them in April. Hes come on good this last couple of games as well as a few of the lads. But Oscar isn't a number 10 and we dont have one.

But I am glad hes with us and he does have some amazing moments for us.